Does it bother you that fusetalk sends your password as plain text to your browser, where it's cached to disk?

notfred

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Feb 12, 2001
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click on "profile" hit "view source" and search for your password. Or you can just search for "password" and it should be one line below the 9th match for 'password'. If your browser caches this page, then it caches your password as plain text.

Does that bother you at all? I know it's only a discussion forum, but there's a lot of people suing the same password for this site as they do on more important sites, like maybe thier bank's website.
 

guyver01

Lifer
Sep 25, 2000
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wow... that's kinda... weird.

but i'm the only one who uses this machine.. so no it dont bother me.

 

FoBoT

No Lifer
Apr 30, 2001
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cool, now all i have to do is sneak into notfred's bedroom and access his computer to get the password from his hard drive

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or else hack his pc and get it that way

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nevermind
 

narzy

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Feb 26, 2000
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what bothers me more is Fusetalk's poorly coded HTML or CSS tho its alot of code, run w3c's validators on it and you can see. better yet open customized pages in Opera or Mozilla, they don't render properly :disgust:
 

Czar

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: narzy
what bothers me more is Fusetalk's poorly coded HTML or CSS tho its alot of code, run w3c's validators on it and you can see. better yet open customized pages in Opera or Mozilla, they don't render properly :disgust:
agreed, and all the anoying spaces in the code, probably around 20-30% of all the html code you download with each pageview are just spaces
:disgust:
 

Confused

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Nov 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: narzy
what bothers me more is Fusetalk's poorly coded HTML or CSS tho its alot of code, run w3c's validators on it and you can see. better yet open customized pages in Opera or Mozilla, they don't render properly :disgust:
agreed, and all the anoying spaces in the code, probably around 20-30% of all the html code you download with each pageview are just spaces
:disgust:

Look here guys
rolleye.gif
 

Scouzer

Lifer
Jun 3, 2001
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Since I'm also the only one that uses this machine I don't really care, but I wouldn't be too keen on logging in on a library computer or some such. Well, if I did, I'd be sure to delete the cache.
 

yakko

Lifer
Apr 18, 2000
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Doesn't bother me at all. I am the only one that uses this machine and this is the only site that I use this password for.
 

BDawg

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Imagine what kind of ungodly powers might be obtained if someone were to steal the Anandtech forums identity BDawg!
rolleye.gif


:D
 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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It doesn't bother me too much, but I would appreciate it if Zuni could avoid doing that, so that I'm not taking the risk of getting my account hacked.
 

Azraele

Elite Member
Nov 5, 2000
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I'm the only one that uses this machine, but it still seems to me that the password should not be cached as plain text. :confused:
 

chiwawa626

Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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It dosent bother me at all, even if i was using a public machine lol...what are the chances of someone wanting to play with my fusetalk! ahhh
 

Ameesh

Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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this is hilarious, if microsoft made some software that did this the entire board would be up in arms.

fusetalk has a lot of bugs, the stupid repeating pm's, its not very scalable, the search sucks there is a bunch of stuff wrong with it. I like this place because of the people not the software
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: Confused
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: narzy
what bothers me more is Fusetalk's poorly coded HTML or CSS tho its alot of code, run w3c's validators on it and you can see. better yet open customized pages in Opera or Mozilla, they don't render properly :disgust:
agreed, and all the anoying spaces in the code, probably around 20-30% of all the html code you download with each pageview are just spaces
:disgust:

Look here guys
rolleye.gif

The reason for all the whitespace is because it is actual code being hidden from the browser. Look at the file extension of this webpage... FuseTalk was written in ColdFusion. Where you see whitespace is actual backend ColdFusion code. That whitespace has nothing to do with filesize.
 

notfred

Lifer
Feb 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Confused
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: narzy
what bothers me more is Fusetalk's poorly coded HTML or CSS tho its alot of code, run w3c's validators on it and you can see. better yet open customized pages in Opera or Mozilla, they don't render properly :disgust:
agreed, and all the anoying spaces in the code, probably around 20-30% of all the html code you download with each pageview are just spaces
:disgust:

Look here guys
rolleye.gif

The reason for all the whitespace is because it is actual code being hidden from the browser. Look at the file extension of this webpage... FuseTalk was written in ColdFusion. Where you see whitespace is actual backend ColdFusion code. That whitespace has nothing to do with filesize.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? Why the hell would a coldfusion interpreter (or any other language for that matter) replace code with whitespace? When you write a perl script that says print "some output text"; it prints:
some output text
and doesn't convert the code to random whitespace. If it did, you'd have




some ountput text

Oh, yeah, that's a great way to design a language... so that you can't control the output of your file at all
rolleye.gif
 

Electric Amish

Elite Member
Oct 11, 1999
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That must be why you guys all hate me....

Someone must have hacked into my computer and discovered my password and posted stuff that made all you people hate me!!!

Yeah, that MUST be it. ;)

amish
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Confused
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: narzy
what bothers me more is Fusetalk's poorly coded HTML or CSS tho its alot of code, run w3c's validators on it and you can see. better yet open customized pages in Opera or Mozilla, they don't render properly :disgust:
agreed, and all the anoying spaces in the code, probably around 20-30% of all the html code you download with each pageview are just spaces
:disgust:

Look here guys
rolleye.gif

The reason for all the whitespace is because it is actual code being hidden from the browser. Look at the file extension of this webpage... FuseTalk was written in ColdFusion. Where you see whitespace is actual backend ColdFusion code. That whitespace has nothing to do with filesize.

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? Why the hell would a coldfusion interpreter (or any other language for that matter) replace code with whitespace? When you write a perl script that says print "some output text"; it prints:
some output text
and doesn't convert the code to random whitespace. If it did, you'd have




some ountput text

Oh, yeah, that's a great way to design a language... so that you can't control the output of your file at all
rolleye.gif

Actually, I'm a ColdFusion programmer (among other things) for IBM. I didn't create the language so don't get all pissy with me, but I know what I'm talking about. It's just a simple fact. It can also happen if there is INCLUDE code in there. Now the password being revealed in the view source... it's just poor designwork on the part of FuseTalk's creators. ALthough, I don't see my own password (did a quick search) when I did a quick view source.

Oh yes one more thing... with ColdFusion, you can COMPLETELY control the output of your file on a webpage. Doing a view source is another matter (like every other language out there). CF is one of the most robust and flexible languages (custom tags, like JSPs and taglibs) available. And don't forget how easy it is to comprehend.
 

notfred

Lifer
Feb 12, 2001
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I still don't beleive cold fusion randomly inserts whitespace at will in it's output. IF it did, how could you possibly use the <pre> tag?

Also, what about something like this?

(I don't know coldfusion, this is some sort of pseudocode)

array = (item1, item2, item3, item4, item5);

output("we have an array");

for (i=0;i<length(array);i++){
output ("the current item is array[ i ]);
}

output("there was our array");

Ok, so you're saying the code gets replaced with whitespace, right? Where does the whitespace go? we should have random whitespace corresponding to the length of or for loop declaration, right? Does it go before the loop, after the loop, or inside each iteration of the loop? What if you want the output from the above code all on one line? you just can't do it?