does IQ test really make sense?

DrPizza

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To a degree. If they'd add in a +/- 20 points, then they may be slightly more useful. Thus, if someone had a 100 IQ and someone else had a 120 IQ, the first person may be smarter than the second by as much as 20 points, or dumber by as much as 40 points. So for the most part, they'd still be almost meaningless.
 

Amorphus

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
To a degree. If they'd add in a +/- 20 points, then they may be slightly more useful. Thus, if someone had a 100 IQ and someone else had a 120 IQ, the first person may be smarter than the second by as much as 20 points, or dumber by as much as 40 points. So for the most part, they'd still be almost meaningless.

Good thing IQ tests don't have a math section, huh? :D
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
It's all about how much of that knowledge you can put to use in life..

IQ tests [mostly] do not measure knowledge.
I think he was saying that applying knowledge IN LIFE is more important than what you get on an IQ test.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
It's all about how much of that knowledge you can put to use in life..

IQ tests [mostly] do not measure knowledge.
I think he was saying that applying knowledge IN LIFE is more important than what you get on an IQ test.

He said that knowledge, and that implies that knowledge which results in a high IQ.
 

Ryuson99

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
It's all about how much of that knowledge you can put to use in life..

IQ tests [mostly] do not measure knowledge.
I think he was saying that applying knowledge IN LIFE is more important than what you get on an IQ test.

He said that knowledge, and that implies that knowledge which results in a high IQ.

only if i understood what you said
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
It's all about how much of that knowledge you can put to use in life..

IQ tests [mostly] do not measure knowledge.
I think he was saying that applying knowledge IN LIFE is more important than what you get on an IQ test.

He said that knowledge, and that implies that knowledge which results in a high IQ.
I'm sorry, you are correct.
 

EmperorIQ

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Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
It's all about how much of that knowledge you can put to use in life..

IQ tests [mostly] do not measure knowledge.
I think he was saying that applying knowledge IN LIFE is more important than what you get on an IQ test.

an IQ tests your ability to apply knowledge, how you think, how fast you think, etc. it has been proven to be valid and good predictors of one's outcome, although as you grow older it is harder the prediction becomes less reliable, it is still reliable.

as time passes by the IQ test gets standardized with what the norm is. It has been discovered that humans improve slightly every decade, so the tests gets more difficult to make up for it. Psychologists still dont know the reason why IQ scores improve generation after generation
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
It's all about how much of that knowledge you can put to use in life..

IQ tests [mostly] do not measure knowledge.
I think he was saying that applying knowledge IN LIFE is more important than what you get on an IQ test.

an IQ tests your ability to apply knowledge, how you think, how fast you think, etc. it has been proven to be valid and good predictors of one's outcome...
by whom?
 

Kalvin00

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Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
It's all about how much of that knowledge you can put to use in life..

IQ tests [mostly] do not measure knowledge.
I think he was saying that applying knowledge IN LIFE is more important than what you get on an IQ test.

He said that knowledge, and that implies that knowledge which results in a high IQ.
I'm sorry, you are correct.

thirtythree, you would be correct. Not him :p
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
It's all about how much of that knowledge you can put to use in life..

IQ tests [mostly] do not measure knowledge.
I think he was saying that applying knowledge IN LIFE is more important than what you get on an IQ test.

an IQ tests your ability to apply knowledge, how you think, how fast you think, etc. it has been proven to be valid and good predictors of one's outcome, although as you grow older it is harder the prediction becomes less reliable, it is still reliable.

as time passes by the IQ test gets standardized with what the norm is. It has been discovered that humans improve slightly every decade, so the tests gets more difficult to make up for it. Psychologists still dont know the reason why IQ scores improve generation after generation

Well, you are the Emperor of IQ and all; I'm not arguing with you :)
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: DrPizza
To a degree. If they'd add in a +/- 20 points, then they may be slightly more useful. Thus, if someone had a 100 IQ and someone else had a 120 IQ, the first person may be smarter than the second by as much as 20 points, or dumber by as much as 40 points. So for the most part, they'd still be almost meaningless.

Good thing IQ tests don't have a math section, huh? :D

:thumbsup:
140-80=60

I think most of the people who try to discredit IQ tests do so because they make them feel inferior.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: thirtythree
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
It's all about how much of that knowledge you can put to use in life..

IQ tests [mostly] do not measure knowledge.
I think he was saying that applying knowledge IN LIFE is more important than what you get on an IQ test.

He said that knowledge, and that implies that knowledge which results in a high IQ.
I'm sorry, you are correct.

thirtythree, you would be correct. Not him :p

I maintain that my exegesis of your statement is correct, and that if you feel it to be incongruous with what you actually meant you should rephrase :D
 

Kalvin00

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Kalvin00

thirtythree, you would be correct. Not him :p

I maintain that my exegesis of your statement is correct, and that if you feel it to be incongruous with what you actually meant you should rephrase :D

Care to put that in layman's terms? :p
 

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my point is that people still can not define what the hell intelligence is, how can they measure it?
 

thirtythree

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Originally posted by: nietsni3
my point is that people still can not define what the hell intelligence is, how can they measure it?
I was under the impression that people have a decent idea of what intelligence is, and know of different types of intelligence, and have tests to measure many of those different types of intelligence.

but maybe I'm wrong.
 

Amorphus

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: DrPizza
To a degree. If they'd add in a +/- 20 points, then they may be slightly more useful. Thus, if someone had a 100 IQ and someone else had a 120 IQ, the first person may be smarter than the second by as much as 20 points, or dumber by as much as 40 points. So for the most part, they'd still be almost meaningless.

Good thing IQ tests don't have a math section, huh? :D

:thumbsup:
140-80=60

I think most of the people who try to discredit IQ tests do so because they make them feel inferior.

While I think IQ tests are okay for determining how quickly one can think, and gauging the "advancedness" of one's logic processes, I don't think it's good data to base anything off of. It's like first impressions - it matters, but it should only be a component of an evaluation.
 

Vic

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IQ is mostly bullsh!t. Just because you might have intelligence doesn't mean you'll actually use it.