Does draft beer taste better than bottled beer?

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MagnusTheBrewer

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I don't doubt that many people genuinely like hoppy beer, but I think for many drinkers and brewers it is more of an affectation than genuine appreciate. Much like bacon. This entire bacon trope is getting out of control, and I think it is similar with hops. With that being said, Dogfish Head 90 & 120 minute IPAs are among my most favorite beers.

Just my thoughts, but I think there is also a false affectation when it comes to brewing high ABV beers. People do it as just a thing to do because it is 'cooler' or more 'manly' or whatever. Again, I realize that several styles require a higher ABV, but certainly not all. Heck, even on the big brewery scale Guinness is brewed at a higher ABV for North American export than it is for Ireland and the Isles. Heaven forbid American drinkers consume a 'weak' 4% beer, so it's bumped up to the 5% range for US sales.

Maybe I'm becoming more of a wuss as I age.

Actually, Guinness is 4.3% ABV here in the U.S. I prefer dark heavy brews such as Imperials, barleywines and Stouts. They all tend to have higher alcohol contents. I would rather have two good dark brews than the oft observed 6 pack drunk of mass produced American lagers. I regularly research beers and it pains me that bad beer is such a huge part of American culture. Look at all the advertising which focuses on words like "light, refreshing, ice cold, drinkability etc." NONE OF WHICH HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TASTE! I truly don't understand why talented brewmasters work for the giant brewers. I guess money talks but, it's an odd profession to go into if money is that important to you.
 

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Around here, the norm is $1 each time the bartender gets drinks. Wow, get the cheapest thing that's on special, and still tip the minimum percentage? What a cheapskate! :p :p

ok, fine.. just 4 u, $1 tip for 5 beers instead of .75 this coming fri.
20%. happy now? :D
 

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Actually, Guinness is 4.3% ABV here in the U.S. I prefer dark heavy brews such as Imperials, barleywines and Stouts. They all tend to have higher alcohol contents. I would rather have two good dark brews than the oft observed 6 pack drunk of mass produced American lagers. I regularly research beers and it pains me that bad beer is such a huge part of American culture. Look at all the advertising which focuses on words like "light, refreshing, ice cold, drinkability etc." NONE OF WHICH HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TASTE! I truly don't understand why talented brewmasters work for the giant brewers. I guess money talks but, it's an odd profession to go into if money is that important to you.

barleywines?!
the only beer I buy to drink at home is guiness.
hows barleywines compared to it?
 

Ayrahvon

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A keezer is one idea. Here's what the actual pump looks like as well as the mechanism.

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I'm guessing the entire below counter thing is about 3ft long. Meant for pulling beer up from cellar kegs. I have no idea what my granddad uses to chill the beer, if anything.


Erm yeah, the size of that thing would complicate issues. That is seriously an awesome brew machine designed for cellar'd beer kegs. Typically cellars are cool enough to store beer and have them keep fresh for about a month. Some people prefer their beer colder, but a good cellar will keep a beer in the mid to low 50s pretty easily. The downside though is that beers will go off a lot faster than they would otherwise due to the temperature and the introduction of air from the pump.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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barleywines?!
the only beer I buy to drink at home is guiness.
hows barleywines compared to it?

Barleywines are a style of beer. Very smooth, winey and, high alcohol content. They're a little sweet but, finish sharp due to the high alcohol level. One of my favorites is Old Numbskull from AleSmith 11% ABV.
 

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Erm yeah, the size of that thing would complicate issues. That is seriously an awesome brew machine designed for cellar'd beer kegs. Typically cellars are cool enough to store beer and have them keep fresh for about a month. Some people prefer their beer colder, but a good cellar will keep a beer in the mid to low 50s pretty easily. The downside though is that beers will go off a lot faster than they would otherwise due to the temperature and the introduction of air from the pump.

Uploaded higher quality versions of those pictures.

I'm thinking I could make the keg fridge and bar as two separate units. So I could get one of those Ikea cabinets, mount the pump in there Then just have the fridge next to it. I could then use the cabinet to store glassware and other bar supplies. I'm not sure how I could do that without it looking like shit. Or, I could get a double kitchen cabinet and mount the fridge in half and the pump in the other. The whole unit does have to be somewhat portable as I plan on moving in a year or two.

I think my Granddad just used it for parties. Probably just got small kegs and kept them in the fridge until they were needed. English beer is kept cool, but not cold. Usually around 8-10c. Since he's gone now, I can't ask him, and I don't think my Grandma remembers.
 

Gerle

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And if bars are keeping them in visible light or high-UV artificial lighting, it happens early.

So, you are often correct, but it's not a rule, just a matter of circumstance.

One reason I hate Corona: almost impossible to get Corona that does not taste skunky.
Walmart sells it in boxed bottles. Not a bar, I know, and you said you don't like it anyway, but maybe you should give it another chance?