Does distilled water conduct electricity?

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: OMGoddess
No. there are no ions.

Would you like to take my chemistry tests for me this semester?

If you'd like to fail the class.

 

[OMGoddess]

For all you chem masters: http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/J...A1/R1MAIN/CD1R1630.HTM

http://www.nutriteam.com/distil.htm

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: OMGoddess
No. there are no ions.

Would you like to take my chemistry tests for me this semester?

If you'd like to fail the class.

If you can just pull that off the top of your head I'd say you'd be likely to do pretty well. We did this experiment just last week and it took some people a while to catch the concept. Then again I don't know why I ever doubted, this is atot after all; there's bound to be some smart people in all these nerds 🙂

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: OMGoddess
No. there are no ions.

Would you like to take my chemistry tests for me this semester?

If you'd like to fail the class.

If you can just pull that off the top of your head I'd say you'd be likely to do pretty well. We did this experiment just last week and it took some people a while to catch the concept. Then again I don't know why I ever doubted, this is atot after all; there's bound to be some smart people in all these nerds 🙂

I took AP chem about 3 years ago. I doubt I would remember enough. Of course it seems some of the people here have not even taken the class.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: OMGoddess
No. there are no ions.

Would you like to take my chemistry tests for me this semester?

If you'd like to fail the class.

If you can just pull that off the top of your head I'd say you'd be likely to do pretty well. We did this experiment just last week and it took some people a while to catch the concept. Then again I don't know why I ever doubted, this is atot after all; there's bound to be some smart people in all these nerds 🙂

I took AP chem about 3 years ago. I doubt I would remember enough. Of course it seems some of the people here have not even taken the class.

I'm in Honors Chem right now, and I just barely managed an A last semester.

 

[OMGoddess]

It was a fun class, I had a weird ass teacher who had a mullet and lived single and with 30 something cats.

 

[Tom]

personally i use a george foreman grill.

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: Tom
personally i use a george foreman grill.

You can make distilled water with that.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: MetalMat

Originally posted by: sniperruff
no you want de-ionized water, not distilled water.

mind you, it costs money to de-ionize water.

electricity itself is electrons no? and since water is a conductor, that would conduct electricity (electrons)

so no, don't even think about it.

Well, from what I remember in highschool physics water only conducts electricity because of the impurities in the water. Thus, if it truly distilled it would not conduct electricity. However, I am unsure how hard it is to totally distill water.

It's not you just boil it collect the steam in a vaccum that is completly isolated and clean. Collect the steam and bottle it before too many impurites enter it. You can put a little bit of impurites in pure water, and it would still not conduct electricity, because the particles are too far apart.

no it's not impurities that carry electricity: the ions that you cannot see carry electricity.

even if you de-ionize some water, as soon as you expose it to air, ions would adhere to water molecules immediately... IIRC H2O have a slightly negative charge itself.

but i think if you pour water onto a circuit board, and let it to dry COMPLETELY, then there should be no harm. if you turn on the circuit while there is water, then water would conduct electricity and fry the board

and again, do not experiment at home...

How much chemistry did you study?

 

[TekViper]

if u stick ohmeter probes into a bottle of previously unopened distilled water from the store, would it show any resistance? or would it be infinite?

 

[OrganizedChaos]

depends on what kind of voltages are running thru the board and how clean it is. if its covered in dust its all over. if its never left the clean room i it shouldn't be an issue

 

[OMGoddess]

You guys have to also remember there is not material substance that does not conduct electricity.

 

[gururu]

this is one of those questions that only an experiment can address. I bet anyone that if you dip a light socket into a bucket of distilled water, all hell is going to break loose. 🙂
I don't care about the theory. The higher the voltage, the more current WILL get through to complete a short. Water has a small amount of natural ions in the form of hydroxide and hydrogen ions. Put enough juice into the distilled water and oh yeah, somethings gonna fry!

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: MetalMat

Originally posted by: sniperruff
no you want de-ionized water, not distilled water.

mind you, it costs money to de-ionize water.

electricity itself is electrons no? and since water is a conductor, that would conduct electricity (electrons)

so no, don't even think about it.

Well, from what I remember in highschool physics water only conducts electricity because of the impurities in the water. Thus, if it truly distilled it would not conduct electricity. However, I am unsure how hard it is to totally distill water.

It's not you just boil it collect the steam in a vaccum that is completly isolated and clean. Collect the steam and bottle it before too many impurites enter it. You can put a little bit of impurites in pure water, and it would still not conduct electricity, because the particles are too far apart.

no it's not impurities that carry electricity: the ions that you cannot see carry electricity.

even if you de-ionize some water, as soon as you expose it to air, ions would adhere to water molecules immediately... IIRC H2O have a slightly negative charge itself.

but i think if you pour water onto a circuit board, and let it to dry COMPLETELY, then there should be no harm. if you turn on the circuit while there is water, then water would conduct electricity and fry the board

and again, do not experiment at home...

How much chemistry did you study?

not much. i hated organic chem. adding the fact that i forgot most of physics, i can say bye bye to mcat.

here's an example: i i was pretty sure that DI water would conduct electricity once you ionize the water with some electricity. guess not.

 

[Shawn]

it shouldn't..... unless crap gets in it.

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: gururu
this is one of those questions that only an experiment can address. I bet anyone that if you dip a light socket into a bucket of distilled water, all hell is going to break loose. 🙂
I don't care about the theory. The higher the voltage, the more current WILL get through to complete a short. Water has a small amount of natural ions in the form of hydroxide and hydrogen ions. Put enough juice into the distilled water and oh yeah, somethings gonna fry!

Assuming that the computer is CLEAN, there is simply not enough voltage or amperage anywhere on the computer tha will force electricity to flow through the distilled water.

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: MetalMat

Originally posted by: sniperruff
no you want de-ionized water, not distilled water.

mind you, it costs money to de-ionize water.

electricity itself is electrons no? and since water is a conductor, that would conduct electricity (electrons)

so no, don't even think about it.

Well, from what I remember in highschool physics water only conducts electricity because of the impurities in the water. Thus, if it truly distilled it would not conduct electricity. However, I am unsure how hard it is to totally distill water.

It's not you just boil it collect the steam in a vaccum that is completly isolated and clean. Collect the steam and bottle it before too many impurites enter it. You can put a little bit of impurites in pure water, and it would still not conduct electricity, because the particles are too far apart.

no it's not impurities that carry electricity: the ions that you cannot see carry electricity.

even if you de-ionize some water, as soon as you expose it to air, ions would adhere to water molecules immediately... IIRC H2O have a slightly negative charge itself.

but i think if you pour water onto a circuit board, and let it to dry COMPLETELY, then there should be no harm. if you turn on the circuit while there is water, then water would conduct electricity and fry the board

and again, do not experiment at home...

How much chemistry did you study?

not much. i hated organic chem. adding the fact that i forgot most of physics, i can say bye bye to mcat.

here's an example: i i was pretty sure that DI water would conduct electricity once you ionize the water with some electricity. guess not.

Props to you man for standing up to your mistake. :beer:

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: gururu
this is one of those questions that only an experiment can address. I bet anyone that if you dip a light socket into a bucket of distilled water, all hell is going to break loose. 🙂
I don't care about the theory. The higher the voltage, the more current WILL get through to complete a short. Water has a small amount of natural ions in the form of hydroxide and hydrogen ions. Put enough juice into the distilled water and oh yeah, somethings gonna fry!

Assuming that the computer is CLEAN, there is simply not enough voltage or amperage anywhere on the computer tha will force electricity to flow through the distilled water.

you may be right, but its not a smart bet if your risking your computer.

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: gururu

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: gururu
this is one of those questions that only an experiment can address. I bet anyone that if you dip a light socket into a bucket of distilled water, all hell is going to break loose. 🙂
I don't care about the theory. The higher the voltage, the more current WILL get through to complete a short. Water has a small amount of natural ions in the form of hydroxide and hydrogen ions. Put enough juice into the distilled water and oh yeah, somethings gonna fry!

Assuming that the computer is CLEAN, there is simply not enough voltage or amperage anywhere on the computer tha will force electricity to flow through the distilled water.

you may be right, but its not a smart bet if your risking your computer.

Tru dat.

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: gururu

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: gururu
this is one of those questions that only an experiment can address. I bet anyone that if you dip a light socket into a bucket of distilled water, all hell is going to break loose. 🙂
I don't care about the theory. The higher the voltage, the more current WILL get through to complete a short. Water has a small amount of natural ions in the form of hydroxide and hydrogen ions. Put enough juice into the distilled water and oh yeah, somethings gonna fry!

Assuming that the computer is CLEAN, there is simply not enough voltage or amperage anywhere on the computer tha will force electricity to flow through the distilled water.

you may be right, but its not a smart bet if your risking your computer.

Tru dat.

my student ID expired. how about we nominate OMG to break into his school's vacuum hood and conduct the experiment there?

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: gururu

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: gururu
this is one of those questions that only an experiment can address. I bet anyone that if you dip a light socket into a bucket of distilled water, all hell is going to break loose. 🙂
I don't care about the theory. The higher the voltage, the more current WILL get through to complete a short. Water has a small amount of natural ions in the form of hydroxide and hydrogen ions. Put enough juice into the distilled water and oh yeah, somethings gonna fry!

Assuming that the computer is CLEAN, there is simply not enough voltage or amperage anywhere on the computer tha will force electricity to flow through the distilled water.

you may be right, but its not a smart bet if your risking your computer.

Tru dat.

my student ID expired. how about we nominate OMG to break into his school's vacuum hood and conduct the experiment there?

I'd do it.

 

[drnickriviera]

A little bit. I'm an expert in this field. I've sprung 2 leaks in water cooled systems. One leak was dripping water on my video card and got into the AGP slot. Video went all wacky. Took the card out dried it off, works fine. 2nd leak was in the waterblock. Water completely soaked the ZIF socket. Computer shutdown and wouldn't turn back on. Took it apart and let it dry overnight, works fine now.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: gururu
this is one of those questions that only an experiment can address. I bet anyone that if you dip a light socket into a bucket of distilled water, all hell is going to break loose. 🙂
I don't care about the theory. The higher the voltage, the more current WILL get through to complete a short. Water has a small amount of natural ions in the form of hydroxide and hydrogen ions. Put enough juice into the distilled water and oh yeah, somethings gonna fry!

True, water self-dissociates into hydroxide and hydronium, which is why in its pure form it doesn't have an infinite electrical resistivity. However, the resistivity of pure water is 2.5x10^+5 ohm meters at 20 degrees Celsius at 1 atm of pressure.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/...sci/phy00/phy00787.htm