Does cheesecake really quailfy as cake?

Cheezeit

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Cheesecake just dosent seem like a cake. It just feels so much more like a pie. WTF is it?

Thoughts?
 

Cheezeit

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Originally posted by: malcontent
It must be cake, else it would be called cheesepie.

It should have, the inventor of must have been drunk. I mean, cheesepie just sounds so freaking cool
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: xSauronx
no

its more properly classified as a custard i believe

Custard pie to be exact.

Isn't that still pie?

no, then wed just say pie

egg gives it most of its structure (most recipes dont call for flour, some do, but usually only a little), but it also uses a creaming method where sugar is creamed with the cheese to aerate the mixture prior to other ingredients being added.
 

Cheezeit

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: xSauronx
no

its more properly classified as a custard i believe

Custard pie to be exact.

Isn't that still pie?

no, then wed just say pie

egg gives it most of its structure (most recipes dont call for flour, some do, but usually only a little), but it also uses a creaming method where sugar is creamed with the cheese to aerate the mixture prior to other ingredients being added.

I did not know that ;) are you a cook or something?
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: xSauronx
no

its more properly classified as a custard i believe

Custard pie to be exact.

Isn't that still pie?

no, then wed just say pie

egg gives it most of its structure (most recipes dont call for flour, some do, but usually only a little), but it also uses a creaming method where sugar is creamed with the cheese to aerate the mixture prior to other ingredients being added.

I did not know that ;) are you a cook or something?

only at home but i used to watch alot of Good Eats and have read alton browns books, good reads.

and cheesecake is ridiculously easy to make, i cant recall ever actually buying one in the last 2 years....

my ex did once, i make a great cheesecake, and she was out getting groceries and bought one at WAL MART :|

never could get her to explain why she didnt call me for an ingredient list instead of buying that bland piece of styrofoam crap.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: xSauronx
no

its more properly classified as a custard i believe

Custard pie to be exact.

Isn't that still pie?

no, then wed just say pie

egg gives it most of its structure (most recipes dont call for flour, some do, but usually only a little), but it also uses a creaming method where sugar is creamed with the cheese to aerate the mixture prior to other ingredients being added.

I did not know that ;) are you a cook or something?

only at home but i used to watch alot of Good Eats and have read alton browns books, good reads.

and cheesecake is ridiculously easy to make, i cant recall ever actually buying one in the last 2 years....

my ex did once, i make a great cheesecake, and she was out getting groceries and bought one at WAL MART :|

never could get her to explain why she didnt call me for an ingredient list instead of buying that bland piece of styrofoam crap.
What's the best-tasting recipe you've ever tried?
 

Cheezeit

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: xSauronx
no

its more properly classified as a custard i believe

Custard pie to be exact.

Isn't that still pie?

no, then wed just say pie

egg gives it most of its structure (most recipes dont call for flour, some do, but usually only a little), but it also uses a creaming method where sugar is creamed with the cheese to aerate the mixture prior to other ingredients being added.

I did not know that ;) are you a cook or something?

only at home but i used to watch alot of Good Eats and have read alton browns books, good reads.

and cheesecake is ridiculously easy to make, i cant recall ever actually buying one in the last 2 years....

my ex did once, i make a great cheesecake, and she was out getting groceries and bought one at WAL MART :|

never could get her to explain why she didnt call me for an ingredient list instead of buying that bland piece of styrofoam crap.
What's the best-tasting recipe you've ever tried?
I have always bought my cheesecake from sams club :eek:
how about you paypal me a cheesecake?:p
 

JinLien

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No flour in pie & custard. There are some flour in sweet baked cream cheese.

Therefore cheese cake is a cake not a pie or custard.

no, then wed just say pie

egg gives it most of its structure (most recipes dont call for flour, some do, but usually only a little), but it also uses a creaming method where sugar is creamed with the cheese to aerate the mixture prior to other ingredients being added.
Egg does give it most of the structure, but the non flour one tend to be a tad too soft, while the flour gives it more body.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: xSauronx
no

its more properly classified as a custard i believe

Custard pie to be exact.

Isn't that still pie?

no, then wed just say pie

egg gives it most of its structure (most recipes dont call for flour, some do, but usually only a little), but it also uses a creaming method where sugar is creamed with the cheese to aerate the mixture prior to other ingredients being added.

I did not know that ;) are you a cook or something?

only at home but i used to watch alot of Good Eats and have read alton browns books, good reads.

and cheesecake is ridiculously easy to make, i cant recall ever actually buying one in the last 2 years....

my ex did once, i make a great cheesecake, and she was out getting groceries and bought one at WAL MART :|

never could get her to explain why she didnt call me for an ingredient list instead of buying that bland piece of styrofoam crap.
What's the best-tasting recipe you've ever tried?
win


a hand mixer comes in handy, a stand mixer would be great, follow all instructions completely. if you dont, the taste will be there, but the texture may not be right

you can reduce the sugar by 1/4 at most, which i do because its damn sweet. if you want to *add* something sweet, like chocolate chips or some such, you may be able to get away with using 2/3C sugar and an extra egg white, but thats a guess and i havent done it myself.

add some extra cinnamon to the crust though, its noticeable, and tasty :)
 

JinLien

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Cheezeit
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: xSauronx
no

its more properly classified as a custard i believe

Custard pie to be exact.

Isn't that still pie?

no, then wed just say pie

egg gives it most of its structure (most recipes dont call for flour, some do, but usually only a little), but it also uses a creaming method where sugar is creamed with the cheese to aerate the mixture prior to other ingredients being added.

I did not know that ;) are you a cook or something?

only at home but i used to watch alot of Good Eats and have read alton browns books, good reads.

and cheesecake is ridiculously easy to make, i cant recall ever actually buying one in the last 2 years....

my ex did once, i make a great cheesecake, and she was out getting groceries and bought one at WAL MART :|

never could get her to explain why she didnt call me for an ingredient list instead of buying that bland piece of styrofoam crap.
What's the best-tasting recipe you've ever tried?
win


a hand mixer comes in handy, a stand mixer would be great, follow all instructions completely. if you dont, the taste will be there, but the texture may not be right

you can reduce the sugar by 1/4 at most, which i do because its damn sweet. if you want to *add* something sweet, like chocolate chips or some such, you may be able to get away with using 2/3C sugar and an extra egg white, but thats a guess and i havent done it myself.

add some extra cinnamon to the crust though, its noticeable, and tasty :)
My favorite are fresh picked blackberry or vanilla with chocolate shaving.
 

Minjin

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I love pumpkin cheesecake! A friend made one for me last year that was dual layered. One layer was pure cheesecake, the other was the pumpkin cheesecake. I wonder if you could make triple layers with the third being pure pumpkn pie. ;)

Mark
 

shilala

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My wife makes the most awesome cheesecake in the world.
It's scratch, gets cooked in a springform pan, and it will bring tears to your eyes.