Does Bush fear Kerry?

[mfs378]

Any suggestion that Clark wanted to drive the russians out of the airport by force (that is, he wanted to engage the russians in combat) is unsupported by the facts.

Furthermore, Clark's objective was shared by the political leadership - it was just that they were unwilling to take action on the ground. They were fully committed, however, to diplomatic efforts to accomplish the same mission. I think the mission was an important one, and believe it is for the best that it was fulfilled diplomatically.

I disagree with your original implication that Clark is a war-monger, and that he wanted to start a war with the russians.

This is the crux of my position. I do not have any personal experience with the matter, and am not aware of all the details, and thus do not want to argue them.

Please let me know if you disagree with my statements above.

 

[FrodoB]

Yeah, Bush fears Kerry as much as he fears catching a cold. There is only one Democrat in this country that could give BUsh somewhat of a challenge for the presidency - Hillary Clinton.

 

[heartsurgeon]

from what I've read Bush deeply fears Kerry. From what I've read the only blemish on Kerry's record is that his wife might be a liability. But besides that small mark, Kerry could possibly derail President Bush's chance at a second term at becoming US President

i'm going to assume from the tone of your post that your don't even have a drivers license yet....

kerry receives more money from "special" interest groups than any other member of the Senate...this is going to be a HUGE problem for him
kerry's military record is going to come under more scrutiny..and it's not as "glowing" as you imagine. by the way, he is a self-confessed war-criminal. When his military record is examined, you won't want him in charge of the U.S. military..he "hates" the military..he voted to cut CIA and Military budgets (guess why our intelligence isn't as good as it could be..John Kerry is the answer)
kerry is a Boston Brahmin, he has NOTHING in common with the "common" ma, for heaven's sake he went sailing with the Kennedy's when Jack was president!
has he ever worked for a living? other than being a politician?
what is he going to do about abortion (He's catholic)
what is he going to do about Gay Marriage? His own state Supreme court has essentially mandated the goverment to legalize it....it is an issue that soccer mom's just don't want to hear about.
he VOTED for the Resolution to invade Iraq...now he's lying about what voting FOR the resolution meant (more Clintonian doublespeak...depends on the meaning of the word "for")

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: FrodoB
Yeah, Bush fears Kerry as much as he fears catching a cold. There is only one Democrat in this country that could give BUsh somewhat of a challenge for the presidency - Hillary Clinton.

unfortunately I agree with this and it is a very scary thought...I think in another four to eight years it might just become a reality unless she manages to piss off even more people in NY....

If Kerry's past gets played up in the media especially with re. his anti war protests and group involvement he is done, stick a fork in him....if not then he might have a chance.

The Dems really effed up this time as Edwards should have been their guy, heck I am pretty conservative and I thought he was a straight shooter even though he was a lawyer...he had pull in the south, a decent personality, looked nice in a suit...all the characteristics for a good puppet.

Also I agree with Doc above, Kerry is about as much the common man as I am Ghandi...he is a typical lib hypocrite...they really screwed the pooch with this one, I even think if Dean didn't go bonkers he would have been a stronger condender, but he had to go and give his primal belch...what a bunch of loons.

 

[Ferocious]

Kerry has a good chance now for if nothing more than the fact that most Americans want Bush out.

Hopefully the voter turnout will be high.

I know quite a few people who voted for Bush that will vote against him. And I know no one who voted against Bush who now vote for him.

Gore won by 500,000 votes.

If voter turnout is somewhat high...the Democratic candidate should win by 2 million or more.

Hopefully anyways.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: mfs378
Any suggestion that Clark wanted to drive the russians out of the airport by force (that is, he wanted to engage the russians in combat) is unsupported by the facts.

Furthermore, Clark's objective was shared by the political leadership - it was just that they were unwilling to take action on the ground. They were fully committed, however, to diplomatic efforts to accomplish the same mission. I think the mission was an important one, and believe it is for the best that it was fulfilled diplomatically.

I disagree with your original implication that Clark is a war-monger, and that he wanted to start a war with the russians.

This is the crux of my position. I do not have any personal experience with the matter, and am not aware of all the details, and thus do not want to argue them.

Please let me know if you disagree with my statements above.

the only way to fulfil clarks orders was to directly confront the russians that already had control of the airport. that is the only detail i am really talking about, and it is a big one. i think what we did in bosnia was needed, what turns my stomach are the hypocrites that criticize bush for his "illegal" war who were all for "clintons war" that technically was no different, except clinton did not have as many other nations behind him as bush does.

i do not seriously consider clark a "warmonger" neither do i bush. again it was sarcasm for the benefit of those who call bush a warmonger when clark can be far more aggressive than many dems grasp.

i also find the UN(and the US to for that matter) hypocritical in constantly harping on humanitarian issues while millions starved in iraq so france, germany and russia can get thier money out of saddam while gaining PR points by "standing up to america"

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
George donsen't know the meaning of FEAR !

There are many other four letter words that he dosen't know the meaning of either.

He sure as hell feared Viet Nam when the rest of us went to support our country (the chicken sh!t bastard).:|

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Kerry has a good chance now for if nothing more than the fact that most Americans want Bush out.

Hopefully the voter turnout will be high.

I know quite a few people who voted for Bush that will vote against him. And I know no one who voted against Bush who now vote for him.

Gore won by 500,000 votes.

If voter turnout is somewhat high...the Democratic candidate should win by 2 million or more.

Hopefully anyways.

thank god for the electoral college...what a lifesaver

 

[mfs378]

I think that the Kosovo war is relevant in the discussion of this presidential election, to the extent that Clark's involvement is considered. The justification for war, therefore, is not pertinent. There are many concerns that can be raised regarding the Iraq war. Comparison with Kosovo is not important; Clinton is not the measuring stick for presidents. Judge Bush on Iraq.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: bozack

thank god for the electoral college...what a lifesaver

Nice

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: mfs378Judge Bush on Iraq.

Downtown sitting in Saddam's chair in 2 weeks...A- ?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: bozack
thank god for the electoral college...what a lifesaver

I think there are over 500 American soldiers, 200 other coalition soldiers (IIRC), and upwards of 10,000 innocent Iraqis who would dispute that ... if only they could. In all fairness, I suppose we can offset that a bit by the number of lives saved in Texas.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: bozack
thank god for the electoral college...what a lifesaver

I think there are over 500 American soldiers, 200 other coalition soldiers (IIRC), and upwards of 10,000 innocent Iraqis who would dispute that ... if only they could. In all fairness, I suppose we can offset that a bit by the number of lives saved in Texas.

actually since fort hood is HQ for both 4thID(over there now) and 1st cav(going over there, some for the second time) i am not sure that "lived saved in texas" comment is very accurate.

just out of curiosity, how many soldiers do you talk to on a everyday? for me around 10-15(yes different ones)

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: mfs378
I think that the Kosovo war is relevant in the discussion of this presidential election, to the extent that Clark's involvement is considered. The justification for war, therefore, is not pertinent. There are many concerns that can be raised regarding the Iraq war. Comparison with Kosovo is not important; Clinton is not the measuring stick for presidents. Judge Bush on Iraq.

could you elucidate? some may think your point is whatever the dems do\did wrong is not relevant, just the republicans...

 

[Genesys]

im going to go ahead and say that NO, Bush does not fear Kerry. Im going to further that and say that there isnt a Dem out there strong enough [or one with a clean enough background] to challenge Bush.

We'll just have to wait and see, now won't we?

 

[0roo0roo]

course bush fears kerry. kerry's war hero status nullifies the "only republicans are for national security and democrats are unamerican bullsh*t." draft dodgers like bush and cheney wrapping themselves in the flag as if it were theirs alone. unlike them, kerry did more then talk, he was wounded and saved a comrad under heavy fire and recieved a bronze star for it.

bush on the other hand protected the skys of what? texas? and couldn't even do that, he went AWOL. he's a fraud that misused the military by donning his flight suit costume and tagging along for a ride for photo ops. if your going to try calling kerry a turd, i don't know how to describe bush.

 

[chess9]

Bush may not fear Kerry because he is so insulated from reality and his nose doesn't have the exquisite sensitivity of a snake's tongue.

Bush should fear any opposition candidate. He didn't win the last election vote. He's waged a very unpopular war and he's had quite a bit of economic bad news. If he isn't worried, then the drugs are working.

-Robert