Originally posted by: blackangst1
No, but he IS a joker!
Originally posted by: OCguy
I dont get the whole "socialist" moniker that the mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers keep using. It is not like Obama has taken over any industry with taxpayer money. It isnt like he is pushing social medicine, or socialized personal transportation.
Originally posted by: OCguy
racist
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: OCguy
racist
You're an immoral ass. Your comment insinuates that actual incidents of racism are not lgitimate, by pretending that you saying this is racist proves they're equally pathetic.
So, you are in effect implying that there are no actual racists, and all racism is a lie - which is itself a major, evil lie, and which makes you scum for implying it.
While that may seem a lot to infer from your one word response, it's the only reasonable inference IMO.
There are legitmate discussions to be had about which allegations of racism are legitimate and which are not, but not for you - you are limited to garbage like you posted here.
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: OCguy
racist
You're an immoral ass. Your comment insinuates that actual incidents of racism are not lgitimate, by pretending that you saying this is racist proves they're equally pathetic.
So, you are in effect implying that there are no actual racists, and all racism is a lie - which is itself a major, evil lie, and which makes you scum for implying it.
While that may seem a lot to infer from your one word response, it's the only reasonable inference IMO.
There are legitmate discussions to be had about which allegations of racism are legitimate and which are not, but not for you - you are limited to garbage like you posted here.
Im glad I wasnt drinking anything when I read that, you would owe me a new keyboard/LCD. Go back to trying to intimidate people through PMs.
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: OCguy
racist
You're an immoral ass. Your comment insinuates that actual incidents of racism are not lgitimate, by pretending that you saying this is racist proves they're equally pathetic.
So, you are in effect implying that there are no actual racists, and all racism is a lie - which is itself a major, evil lie, and which makes you scum for implying it.
While that may seem a lot to infer from your one word response, it's the only reasonable inference IMO.
There are legitmate discussions to be had about which allegations of racism are legitimate and which are not, but not for you - you are limited to garbage like you posted here.
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: OCguy
I dont get the whole "socialist" moniker that the mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers keep using. It is not like Obama has taken over any industry with taxpayer money. It isnt like he is pushing social medicine, or socialized personal transportation.
You don't understand what socialism is!
/Vic
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: OCguy
I dont get the whole "socialist" moniker that the mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers keep using. It is not like Obama has taken over any industry with taxpayer money. It isnt like he is pushing social medicine, or socialized personal transportation.
You don't understand what socialism is!
/Vic
And Vic is 100% correct.
It's not shocking that Republicans don't fully grasp the idea of Socialism, because it's obvious they don't understand Capitalism either.
Originally posted by: JS80
"a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole."
So government ownership of private industry is not socialism?
Socialism refers to any one of various theories of economic organization advocating state, public or common worker ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a more egalitarian method of compensation.[1][2][3] Modern socialism originated in the late 18th-century intellectual and working class political movement that criticized the effects of industrialization and private ownership on society, however, socialism itself is not a political system or ideology; it is instead an economic system distinct from capitalism. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution and become the transitional stage from capitalism to communism.[4][5]
The utopian socialists, including Robert Owen, tried to found self-sustaining socialist communities within a capitalist society. Henri de Saint Simon, the first individual to coin the term socialism, was the original thinker who advocated technocracy and industrial planning. The first socialists predicted a world improved by harnessing technology and combining it with better social organization, and many contemporary socialists share this belief.[6][7] Early socialist thinkers tended to favor an authentic meritocracy combined with rational social planning, while many modern socialists have a more egalitarian approach.
Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society. Therefore socialists advocate the creation of a society in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly based on the amount of work expended in production, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how and to what extent this could be achieved.
Socialism is not a concrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other. Another dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split between reformists and the revolutionaries on how a socialist economy should be established. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Socialists inspired by the Soviet model of economic development have advocated the creation of centrally planned economies directed by a state that owns all the means of production. Others, including Yugoslavian, Hungarian, German and Chinese Communists in the 1970s and 1980s, instituted various forms of market socialism, combining co-operative and state ownership models with the free market exchange and free price system (but not free prices for the means of production).[8]
Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies, with private ownership of property and of profit-making business. Social democrats also promote tax-funded welfare programs and regulation of markets. Many social democrats, particularly in European welfare states, refer to themselves as "socialists", introducing a degree of ambiguity to the understanding of what the term means.
You obviously have no respect for the concept of personal responsibility.Originally posted by: OCguy
Im glad I wasnt drinking anything when I read that, you would owe me a new keyboard/LCD.
Originally posted by: Infohawk
Jibjab is still around?
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: OCguy
I dont get the whole "socialist" moniker that the mouth-breathing knuckle-draggers keep using. It is not like Obama has taken over any industry with taxpayer money. It isnt like he is pushing social medicine, or socialized personal transportation.
You don't understand what socialism is!
/Vic
And Vic is 100% correct.
It's not shocking that Republicans don't fully grasp the idea of Socialism, because it's obvious they don't understand Capitalism either.
"a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole."
So government ownership of private industry is not socialism?
Originally posted by: sandorski
Second time/thread you Posted that. Yet you still are clueless as to what it means.
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: sandorski
Second time/thread you Posted that. Yet you still are clueless as to what it means.
Please, humor us as to why the Obama policies listed are not Socialist, instead of just saying they arent.
You can sit there and say a duck isnt a duck until your face turns blue, but that doesnt mean it isnt a fucking duck.