I was watching Discovery Channel yesterday. Yes, I was that bored. They were talking about Bermuda Triangle and how planes and ships disappear when they reach that area. Now some say that, that's where Atlantis is and they actually communicate with UFOs. Could this be true? I mean, still such a big mystery about all these planes disappearing, UFOs, BERMUDA, and Atlantis. I wish I stay alive til the day they unreveal what is behind all this.
DOES ATLANTIS EXIST?!
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No, the aliens transported Atlantis to their home planet.
But now that you know this, look out your window. That light in the sky is coming for you!
But now that you know this, look out your window. That light in the sky is coming for you!
There may have been a civilization in that vicinity, which may have been more advanced than they had any right to be for that period in time (like the Mayans?). A volcanic eruption may have erased its existence, the ruins of which are inaccessible. But as far as all the science fiction is concerned, I have my doubts..... -kd5-
Isn't it strange that all the ships that sank.. not a single skeleton found in it.. they even found a plane that had the doors shut, but the person was missing. Maybe all the missing people are living in Atlantis... 
There are three locations (in Africa, Mexico and Central-America) on this planet with structures which are much too advanced to be build by a primitive civilization, or one with our current knowledge. These structures were all build around 11,500 BC.
One theory tells us that there was an advanced civilization on this planet, far back in time, which was destroyed during a time of increased vulcanic activity and melting parts of the ice caps, both caused by a shifting of the tectonic plates, which was the result of an imbalance of the earth (caused by too large ice caps on one side of the planet).
The survivors of this civilization then helped other, less advanced civilizations to build those structures which still amaze us today.
One theory tells us that there was an advanced civilization on this planet, far back in time, which was destroyed during a time of increased vulcanic activity and melting parts of the ice caps, both caused by a shifting of the tectonic plates, which was the result of an imbalance of the earth (caused by too large ice caps on one side of the planet).
The survivors of this civilization then helped other, less advanced civilizations to build those structures which still amaze us today.
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<< There are three locations (in Africa, Mexico and Central-America) on this planet with structures which are much too advanced to be build by a primitive civilization, or one with our current knowledge. These structures were all build around 11,500 BC. >>
Huh??? What structures have been dated to 11,500 BC???
You know, Discovery, TLC and the History Channel have pissed me off with some of the utter crap they pass off as "science."
History really screwed the pooch when they started airing old "In Search Of" episodes. Man, what a farce.
What do Atlantis, Big Foot, ghosts, Loch Ness Monster, ESP, and UFOs have in common? Complete and utter flakes who pass themselves off as "scientists."
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The world is fascinating enough without having to make crap up as we go along, not to mention trying to attribute the past successes of man to little green men from outter space. A lot of this crap got started in the 70s, and just wont die,
The worst ones, were the ones with Leonard Nemoy narrating..
kinda makes sense he was in the lousy disney movie then gah
<< << There are three locations (in Africa, Mexico and Central-America) on this planet with structures which are much too advanced to be build by a primitive civilization, or one with our current knowledge. These structures were all build around 11,500 BC. >>
Huh??? What structures have been dated to 11,500 BC??? >>
The pyramids, the 'pyramids' created by the Maya and more pyramid-like structures made by a civilization whose name I can't remember right now.
Note: I'm not saying that this theory I just described is true, just that it's one of the best theories we have so far to explain all of those magnificient structures even we can't build with so much precision plus the fact that those similar structures are found in three places on this planet which were supposed to have had no regular contact (especially Africa -> America), and that those structures have been found to date back to around 11,500 BC (give or take a couple of thousand years).
Saying that it's just coincidence is the least convincing theory of all IMHO.
Most current theories are gaining evidence that between 11,500 bc and 9000 bc was a period of heavy flooding and geothermal/tectonic activity. Rather it was melting caps, meteor strike, or divine flooding is still up in the air. In any case, about 12000 years ago the planet changed drastically. This much is supported pretty much universally.
Egypt/phoenicia (sp?) is no longer thought to be the oldest traces of civilization. Instead they are considering some sunken ruins off the coast of Japan, an elevated plateau in South America, and a few other remote locales. They've estimated these new places to date back to the period of flooding, between 12,500 and 9000 bc, but exact findings are still sketchy. This predates the previous earliest traces which dated to about 4500bc (such as the pyramids, and early phonecian settlements).
That a civilization of advanced technical knowledge existed before the 4500bc era is no longer seriously doubted by most historians. Some are willing to entertain that it was 'Atlantis', while others remain certain that it was the forefathers of known early civilizations -mayans, incas, toltecs, etc. The sudden existence of advanced architecture, art, medicine, and other societal tells at around the 6000-4000 bc period is fairly convincing evidence that it all came from someplace.
Furthermore there is an UNCANNY resemblence between egyptian, south american, pacific islander, and asian ultra-early leavings that suggest they ALL had a similar origin.
Some of the more telling evidence I've personally heard:
similarity of 'pyramid' constructs on 4 different continents...all suddenly appearing about the same time.
worldwide tradition of a 'great flood' which cast down previous civilization.
mediterranean literature and other records which discuss vast civilizations to the west, and in many cases even describe Atlantis, it's people, and it's accomplishments.
Orichalcum - DUDE! That stuff is INSANE.
growing geological data concerning MASSIVE changes around 12500-9000 bc.
computer modeling showing possible migration and spread of ideas/people done 'assuming' that a global flood did occur at about the time discussed. It's the first solid planetary evolvement connection I've ever seen.
Anyway, I'm not saying Atlantians were aliens or anything, nor that the bible is true, nor that anything in particular is exactly what happened. I am saying that after a LOT of research it seems obvious that more went on before 4500bc than has ever been talked about before, and it's time to give it more serious scientific study.
Egypt/phoenicia (sp?) is no longer thought to be the oldest traces of civilization. Instead they are considering some sunken ruins off the coast of Japan, an elevated plateau in South America, and a few other remote locales. They've estimated these new places to date back to the period of flooding, between 12,500 and 9000 bc, but exact findings are still sketchy. This predates the previous earliest traces which dated to about 4500bc (such as the pyramids, and early phonecian settlements).
That a civilization of advanced technical knowledge existed before the 4500bc era is no longer seriously doubted by most historians. Some are willing to entertain that it was 'Atlantis', while others remain certain that it was the forefathers of known early civilizations -mayans, incas, toltecs, etc. The sudden existence of advanced architecture, art, medicine, and other societal tells at around the 6000-4000 bc period is fairly convincing evidence that it all came from someplace.
Furthermore there is an UNCANNY resemblence between egyptian, south american, pacific islander, and asian ultra-early leavings that suggest they ALL had a similar origin.
Some of the more telling evidence I've personally heard:
similarity of 'pyramid' constructs on 4 different continents...all suddenly appearing about the same time.
worldwide tradition of a 'great flood' which cast down previous civilization.
mediterranean literature and other records which discuss vast civilizations to the west, and in many cases even describe Atlantis, it's people, and it's accomplishments.
Orichalcum - DUDE! That stuff is INSANE.
growing geological data concerning MASSIVE changes around 12500-9000 bc.
computer modeling showing possible migration and spread of ideas/people done 'assuming' that a global flood did occur at about the time discussed. It's the first solid planetary evolvement connection I've ever seen.
Anyway, I'm not saying Atlantians were aliens or anything, nor that the bible is true, nor that anything in particular is exactly what happened. I am saying that after a LOT of research it seems obvious that more went on before 4500bc than has ever been talked about before, and it's time to give it more serious scientific study.
The Egyptian pyramids do not date to 11500 B.C. We have found records and we know the name of the man who commisioned the building of the Great Pyramid and also the architect. It is around 5000 years old. There are some a bit older but actually not much. Certainly nothing approaching 11500 B.C. The "pyramids" in the Americas (which are nothing like the ones in Egypt) have been found to be much newer than that. The oldest are believed to be from 2600 B.C.E, but many were built within the last 2000 years. I have no idea where you got your 11500 B.C.figure from, since all current science and historical records say they are in fact nearly 10000 years nerwer than that. There is some evidence that suggests the Sphynx is around 9000-10000 years old, however the evidence is weak, and the implecations if it is that old are minor. I don't think you will find any history professor or archaeologist that will agree with you that the pyramids in Egypt or anywhere else are 14000 years old, sorry.
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The Pyramids in Egypt and the "pyramids" in America bear little resemblence to each other. Some of the early Egyptian Pyramids have steps, and there the similarity ends. They had a totally different function in the two places and the scale is not even comparable. The fact that they are both pyramid shaped is coincidence. If you dump dirt in a pile it makes that shape on it's own. A pyramid like structure is the most stable structure you can build. Of course many early peoples are going to built things like that. And also after thousands of years the most stable structures are still around, while most of the weaker ones have vanished. Of course the most stable structures will have much in common. There is some evidence that suggests that the Egyptians actually sailed to America. If this is true then why should we be surprised to see traces of Egypt here?
<< The Egyptian pyramids do not date to 11500 B.C. >>
The pyramids do, however, resemble the positions of the stars in about 10,500 B.C. with the Nile forming the Milky Way
Next question: how did the Egyptians know exactly what the positions of the stars was in 10,500 BC? Did they have a map? Since those positions of the pyramids so accurately fit the positions of certain stars, there must have been a civilization with a great deal of knowledge on astronomy around 10,500 BC, or a later civilization must have calculated the exact positions of those stars in the sky at that time.
Either way, a great deal of knowledge appears to be missing.
BTW, I checked some papers of previous research and noticed that the date I used in my previous posts (11,500 BC) was indeed false. The correct date was 10,500 BC. My apologies for the confusion.
<< The Pyramids in Egypt and the "pyramids" in America bear little resemblence to each other >>
In that case, you don't mind providing some sources which support this statement, do you?
That's another good one elledan, I forgot about that.
The location of the major structures of Egypt (not just the pyramids) are EXACTLY in correlation to astral positions in 10,500bc. The major periods correspond not only the the position of orions belt, but also the size of the pyramids is an EXACT mirror of the magnitude of those stars.
Further evidence has shown that there is some monument or building (can't remember which one) which is unlike any of the others in the region, that relates to a position which has no star...today. However astronomers have found that there definately WAS a star there that died/exploded more than 11,000 years ago.
Research has also shown that the 'windows' in the pyramids all point to locations which currently have no meaning, but which in 10,500 would have EXACTLY focused on very important stellar locations.
The location of the major structures of Egypt (not just the pyramids) are EXACTLY in correlation to astral positions in 10,500bc. The major periods correspond not only the the position of orions belt, but also the size of the pyramids is an EXACT mirror of the magnitude of those stars.
Further evidence has shown that there is some monument or building (can't remember which one) which is unlike any of the others in the region, that relates to a position which has no star...today. However astronomers have found that there definately WAS a star there that died/exploded more than 11,000 years ago.
Research has also shown that the 'windows' in the pyramids all point to locations which currently have no meaning, but which in 10,500 would have EXACTLY focused on very important stellar locations.
<< Research has also shown that the 'windows' in the pyramids all point to locations which currently have no meaning, but which in 10,500 would have EXACTLY focused on very important stellar locations. >>
Indeed. For example, those shafts (it aren't exactly windows
) in the pyramid of Cheops would point towards Zeto Orionis (Orion), Sirius, Thuban (polar star) and Ursa Minor (Little Bear). Around 10,500 BC, thus.Interesting detail: one of those shafts is blocked by a mysterious door with copper handles. No one knows yet what's behind it.
Some Maya Pyramids in present-day Guatemala .....
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Personally, I don't think they really resemble the Great Pyramids of Egypt very much.
I tend to agree with lirion about the pyramid shape being common because of its inherent stability.
All these studies are certainly fascinating, and I sure can't make up my mind as to which scientists may be 'right'.
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Personally, I don't think they really resemble the Great Pyramids of Egypt very much.
I tend to agree with lirion about the pyramid shape being common because of its inherent stability.
All these studies are certainly fascinating, and I sure can't make up my mind as to which scientists may be 'right'.
Yuppers...and if you do your research you'll learn that the Egyptian government originally agreed to allow serious work to be done to reach beyond that door. Then overnight they suddenly clamped everything shut, no door, no excavation...everyone get out. They never offered any explanation for their change of heart.
A source (albeit not a very reliable one) came forward soon afterwards to claim that the change was after a night visit from a representative of a group dedicated to a set of prophecies that talk about an important discovery in or under the pyramids which will detail the earlier civilizations of the earth.
Not sure if I believe that part or not, but the truth is that overnight the Egyptian government completely changed it's stance regarding exploration.
A source (albeit not a very reliable one) came forward soon afterwards to claim that the change was after a night visit from a representative of a group dedicated to a set of prophecies that talk about an important discovery in or under the pyramids which will detail the earlier civilizations of the earth.
Not sure if I believe that part or not, but the truth is that overnight the Egyptian government completely changed it's stance regarding exploration.
<< << The Pyramids in Egypt and the "pyramids" in America bear little resemblence to each other >>
In that case, you don't mind providing some sources which support this statement, do you? >>
How do you prove an apple doesn't look like an orange? Just look at them. Well, the Egyptian Pyramids are tombs. The American "pyramids" are temples. People are burried in the Egyptian Pyramids. People were killed on the American "pyramids". The two kinds of pyramids have nothing in common past the basic shape, and even that is not that close. I outlined it for you above if you would have read it. I provided links about both kinds of pyramids, the differences are described in those and many many other links. If you still think they are exactly the same why don't post why you think so?
Did you know that the buildings in Washington D.C. match up exactly with the stars in the constellation Signus the Swan? It's true, even though it wasn't planned that way. Do you think aliens built Washington as well?
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