Does anyone think Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was coerced into confessing?

Nocturnal

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All of a sudden we have someone who is claiming responsibility for 9/11 and the killing of Daniel Pearl. To me it seems a little weird that he just randomly said okay, I did all of this. Obviously it looks like a case of torture/coercion.
 

Double Trouble

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I disagree. From what I've read, the guy has a huge ego. He's probably more than willing to say "I did all this stuff, 'cause that's just how great I am". Of course, he was also not provided a lawyer, so I'm sure he wasn't aware of any of his rights. Also, given the fact that I'm sure he'll receive the death penalty in a kangaroo court no matter what he says, why not just say "I'm the mastermind behind everything"?
 
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I think his confessions will ultimately look about as legitimate as those of Zacharias Moussaoui (that is, not so much). He seems to have lost his mind. I believe he was only recently transferred to Gitmo, after spending years in rendition, where he was almost certainly tortured severely and often.
 

Jaskalas

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As a known member of Al'Qaeda, he shouldn?t even be alive to confess anything.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
All of a sudden we have someone who is claiming responsibility for 9/11 and the killing of Daniel Pearl. To me it seems a little weird that he just randomly said okay, I did all of this. Obviously it looks like a case of torture/coercion.
Considering how much negative news is all over the headlines about administration members and their actions and objectives, and their history of providing convenient, if not necessarily true, distractive tidbits to the media under similar circumstances, we have no way of knowing how much truth there is in Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's "confessions" and reason to believe or disbelieve anything he allegedly said.

Q: What's the secret of telling a good joke?

A: Timing.

The truth is, we'll probably never know the truth if this adminstration has anything to say about it.
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
As a known member of Al'Qaeda, he shouldn?t even be alive to confess anything.
We'll remember that the next time you're charged with a serious crime... AFTER your fun excursion on the waterboard ride, but BEFORE you get as much as a chance to be represented by legal counsel or have the charges against you read in open court.

Thanks for sharing your dreams for a tyrannical fascistic dictatorship. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:
 

BaliBabyDoc

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I'm still waiting for the guy to say he was on the grassy knoll, behind Nicole Brown Simpson's house, and knocked off George Reeves . . .
 

johnnobts

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As a known member of Al'Qaeda, he shouldn?t even be alive to confess anything.
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true.

rosie o'donnel's statements on the view about him being tortured into confession ticked me off.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: johnnobts
As a known member of Al'Qaeda, he shouldn?t even be alive to confess anything.
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true.

rosie o'donnel's statements on the view about him being tortured into confession ticked me off.

Does anybody take that fat pig serious anymore?
 

Harvey

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Maybe the Bushwhackos should produce a movie about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's timely "confession." They could call it, "A Convenient Truth." :Q
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: johnnobts
As a known member of Al'Qaeda, he shouldn?t even be alive to confess anything.
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true.

rosie o'donnel's statements on the view about him being tortured into confession ticked me off.

Why are you watching the View?
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Maybe the Bushwhackos should produce a movie about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's timely "confession." They could call it, "A Convenient Truth." :Q

I think they would call it '24' or is it '48'? Obviously, their version would happen in months instead of hours.
 

Pens1566

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Who knows? What is interesting is that he apparently confessed some time ago and the info is just now being released. Convenient if you ask me. This is the new "Terror Alert".
 

ajf3

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Of course, it's all a conspiracy... Bush wanted him to admit hating us all the way back to Carter to dispell the rumors that he provoked the situation... You know, Bush lied blah blah blah
 

johnnobts

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Why are you watching the View?
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b/c rosie reminds me everyday why liberals are dangerous. that and i have a crush on elizabeth hassleback.

incidentally, patricia heaton was in talks to take the spot left by merideth viera. but she was too conservative (pro-life), and there can be only one token conservative on that show.
 

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: johnnobts
As a known member of Al'Qaeda, he shouldn?t even be alive to confess anything.
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true.

rosie o'donnel's statements on the view about him being tortured into confession ticked me off.

Why are you watching the View?

It's a show for women, homosexuals, or stay-at-home husbands.
 

johnnobts

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Bush wanted him to admit hating us all the way back to Carter to dispell the rumors that he provoked the situation... You know, Bush lied blah blah blah
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so... you think that al qaeda loved carter and clinton or something? they only got together b/c they hate george bush? i guess they did love the two, clinton especially since he treated terrorism like a minor nuisance, didn't even want osama bin laden.
 

IronWing

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Finally, something the Bush administration does actually works. Torture FTW!


After five years of torture and confinement, hell, I'd even confess to eating a banana.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: johnnobts
Bush wanted him to admit hating us all the way back to Carter to dispell the rumors that he provoked the situation... You know, Bush lied blah blah blah
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so... you think that al qaeda loved carter and clinton or something? they only got together b/c they hate george bush? i guess they did love the two, clinton especially since he treated terrorism like a minor nuisance, didn't even want osama bin laden.

I wonder..

Is al-qaeda bigger and stonger now or before 9/11

Has WORLD terrorism decreased since your hero took office or increased
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
As a known member of Al'Qaeda, he shouldn?t even be alive to confess anything.
We'll remember that the next time you're charged with a serious crime... AFTER your fun excursion on the waterboard ride, but BEFORE you get as much as a chance to be represented by legal counsel or have the charges against you read in open court.

Thanks for sharing your dreams for a tyrannical fascistic dictatorship. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

You treat anyone as an American citizen with rights to be protected. Your sympathetic reaction to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is absurd. I?m waiting for you to espouse opprobrium towards Bush while telling us Osama was set up by a ?tyrannical fascistic dictatorship?.

The rights of AMERICAN CITIZENS should never be abridged by their government. To consider Al'Qaeda in the same category is disgusting. Those who strive to kill us only have a single right: to surrender or die.

For you to think otherwise, and perhaps advocate their cause through support, is truly sad.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
As a known member of Al'Qaeda, he shouldn?t even be alive to confess anything.
We'll remember that the next time you're charged with a serious crime... AFTER your fun excursion on the waterboard ride, but BEFORE you get as much as a chance to be represented by legal counsel or have the charges against you read in open court.

Thanks for sharing your dreams for a tyrannical fascistic dictatorship. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

You treat anyone as an American citizen with rights to be protected. Your sympathetic reaction to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is absurd. I?m waiting for you to espouse opprobrium towards Bush while telling us Osama was set up by a ?tyrannical fascistic dictatorship?.

The rights of AMERICAN CITIZENS should never be abridged by their government. To consider Al'Qaeda in the same category is disgusting. Those who strive to kill us only have a single right: to surrender or die.

For you to think otherwise, and perhaps advocate their cause through support, is truly sad.

I'd hate to live in your world.
 

johnnobts

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Preacher: Man with a sock puppet on one hand and a tin cup in the other.
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i don't use sock puppets.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Jackass
You treat anyone as an American citizen with rights to be protected. Your sympathetic reaction to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is absurd. I?m waiting for you to espouse opprobrium towards Bush while telling us Osama was set up by a ?tyrannical fascistic dictatorship?.

The rights of AMERICAN CITIZENS should never be abridged by their government. To consider Al'Qaeda in the same category is disgusting. Those who strive to kill us only have a single right: to surrender or die.

For you to think otherwise, and perhaps advocate their cause through support, is truly sad.
The OP's question was whether anyone believed Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was coerced into his confession. I didn't say anything about not prosecuting him or anyone else who has attacked us or committed any other crime.

I resplied to your post:
As a known member of Al'Qaeda, he shouldn?t even be alive to confess anything.
At a minimum, I'd that's egotistical and highly presumptuous.

Thanks for showing you're every bit as blood thirsty, uncivilized and inhumane as those radical elemants who have sworn to destroy us. With friends like you, we don't need enemies. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:
 

johnnobts

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s al-qaeda bigger and stonger now or before 9/11

Has WORLD terrorism decreased since your hero took office or increased
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was the threat of terrorism growing under clinton's (your hero?) watch? absolutely. were there terrorist attacks worldwide that impacted the U.S. and our allies? Absolutely. did he do anything about it? absolutely not.

as per your question about the size of al queda, guess what? we don't really know how strong they were under clinton, mostly b/c he single-handedly gutted our intelligence agency and ham-strung the CIA. That's a fact. public record.