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Does anyone think Iran will honestly use nuclear tech for just energy?

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Rhin0

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What do you guys think? It is obvious that they are not open to any type of diplomacy at least not for any incentives. I doubt they are open to any diplomatic routes for that matter.

They have "promised" they would never use nuclear technology to make a bomb like some others think they will. As you knowm they say it is strictly for energy production.

Does anyone believe this? What ya think? I think it is laughable...
 
Originally posted by: Rhin0
What do you guys think? It is obvious that they are not open to any type of diplomacy at least not for any incentives. I doubt they are open to any diplomatic routes for that matter.

They have "promised" they would never use nuclear technology to make a bomb like some others think they will. As you knowm they say it is strictly for energy production.

Does anyone believe this? What ya think? I think it is laughable...
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i see no threat in them getting a bomb. Are the mullahs going to commit suicide by giving it to alqaeda or dropping one on tel aviv? Of course not, they're just a bunch of old bastards who want to maintain their power.

On the actually question, i think its about 50-50 on whether they do or not. Even if they do build their plants and maybe (probably) build nukes, its still definately worth it to reduce the world dependency on oil.
 
They might just use it for Electrical generation, but I suspect they want to go further. If Russia gets their way Iran will return all materials required to make a bomb, hopefully that works out.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
They might just use it for Electrical generation, but I suspect they want to go further. If Russia gets their way Iran will return all materials required to make a bomb, hopefully that works out.
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The reactor itself that Russia is building isn't the problem, it is that Iran wants to enrich its own uranium, plus it also wants to build a hard-water reactor (these don't provide a lot of power, but are used for making a bomb)
 
Hard to say. Their current program is well within IAEA guidelines, and enriching their own uranium would be, as well, provided they agree to the proper inspection regimen....

In their place, the Iranians, I'd want the big one, for sure, seeing as how they're on the Axis of Evil Hitlist, and American troops are sitting right next door... as to whether or not they'll go that way is another question entirely... Threatening rhetoric will only convince them that the nuclear option is their only choice, bet on that....
 
I don't care if they have a reactor but if they have nothing to hide then why don't they let the IAEA install the cameras and such like they did in NK (well until they unplugged them)

 
The fuel is going back to Russia, so they cannot use the nuclear reactors for nuclear bombs.

They could use other things they have.

Either way everything they are doing is allowed by international law.

They have a right to the heavy water plant, nuclear reactor, etc.

Iran does have problems with energy in their country, so they could be telling the truth.

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To answer your question, yes . Iran will build as many plants as possible while following the rules. Iran will then invest heavily in an air force and air defense systems. They will have better missiles and means to strike back if their country is attacked.

So for now, yes.
10 years from now, no.
 
Other than sheer paranoia, the major argument for only the major powers having control of nuclear weapons is the strict and orderly chain of command issue. There's an complex control scheme at play in making sure those nukes aren't launched except by explicit order of the supreme leader of each nuclear nation. Also, no matter your political slant, the apocalypse is not going to arrive because the President of France, Russia or the U.S. decides to shoot off a nuke for no reason.

On the other hand, do we really know what kind of hair trigger North Korea or Iran would put their nukes on? Would they even have the checks in place to make sure some crazed subordinate doesn't take the initiative to wipe out a bunch of people on his own? Uncertainty in the nuclear game is a pretty damned unnerving thing.
 
Actually any country exploiting nuclear power in its power plants would have the capacities to develop a nuclear weapon. In order to prevent the possibilities of nuclear weapons proliferation you would need to firbid in some way the right on each country to exploit nuclear power for their economical development. Who has the right to do that? It's a very delicate issue. Iran has claimed many times that they are only trying to develop nuclear power for industrial use. Of course you believe it or not. But trying to forbid this has NO fundation in the international laws.
 
Originally posted by: Rhin0
What do you guys think? It is obvious that they are not open to any type of diplomacy at least not for any incentives. I doubt they are open to any diplomatic routes for that matter.

They have "promised" they would never use nuclear technology to make a bomb like some others think they will. As you knowm they say it is strictly for energy production.

Does anyone believe this? What ya think? I think it is laughable...
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No. Then again, why should they? We use nuclear weapons (partially depleted uranium), and have no problem keeping an arsenal of ones that could kill most of life on the Earth--why should anyone prohibit them?
 
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: Rhin0
What do you guys think? It is obvious that they are not open to any type of diplomacy at least not for any incentives. I doubt they are open to any diplomatic routes for that matter.

They have "promised" they would never use nuclear technology to make a bomb like some others think they will. As you knowm they say it is strictly for energy production.

Does anyone believe this? What ya think? I think it is laughable...
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No. Then again, why should they? We use nuclear weapons (partially depleted uranium), and have no problem keeping an arsenal of ones that could kill most of life on the Earth--why should anyone prohibit them?
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Well, there's the argument that there needs to truly be 'mutual' in MAD to make it effective. Then there's the argument that only 'level' headed nations should be allowed to have such destructive weapons, the rationale being that MAD only works with rational actors possessing the nukes.
 
Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: Rhin0
What do you guys think? It is obvious that they are not open to any type of diplomacy at least not for any incentives. I doubt they are open to any diplomatic routes for that matter.

They have "promised" they would never use nuclear technology to make a bomb like some others think they will. As you knowm they say it is strictly for energy production.

Does anyone believe this? What ya think? I think it is laughable...
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No. Then again, why should they? We use nuclear weapons (partially depleted uranium), and have no problem keeping an arsenal of ones that could kill most of life on the Earth--why should anyone prohibit them?
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Well, there's the argument that there needs to truly be 'mutual' in MAD to make it effective. Then there's the argument that only 'level' headed nations should be allowed to have such destructive weapons, the rationale being that MAD only works with rational actors possessing the nukes.
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In that case, why do WE have them?! GWB = rational? The UK is moderately rational; but really, the only major rational players in the world are Russia and China. Our government can't see father than it's own nose.
 
I wonder if it would be possible to call their bluff and build a nuke plant offshore (or at a neutral site, or an an embassy-like foriegn-owned parcel of land) and have the Russains man & maintain it. "You need power, ok we'll give you power." In exchange for whatever Russia was trying to get them to give back. No Iranian nationals allowed on premesis.

If they agree to that, then maybe they can be taken seriousily. *shrug*
 
If I were in their place, I'd be interested in more than just energy production. I doubt anyone with any understanding of their situation could honestly claim otherwise.
 
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