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Does anyone make a solid state camcorder?

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Doggiedog

Lifer
I'm in the market for one now. I like some of the smaller camcorders (except Sony) I see but I'm wondering if there are any solid state camcorders out on the market or coming out soon considering flash memory is so cheap these days.
 
eh...

Flash may be cheap, but they still don't have the sizes available to be able to record even say, 30 minutes of high qaulity video.

We'd need like 80gb flash cards to make it worth it....
 
1st, flash memory isn't cheap enough to make a solid state camcorder.

Second, flash memory isn't nearly fast enough. Flash is dead ass slow.

The only way to do it would be with RAM + a battery backup.

We all know how expensive RAM is these days.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: Eli
eh...

Flash may be cheap, but they still don't have the sizes available to be able to record even say, 30 minutes of high qaulity video.

We'd need like 80gb flash cards to make it worth it....
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But realize 4.7Gb is good enough for 3 hours of DVD quality MPEG2. I've seen 3Gb flash cards out on the market and with 1Gb cards under $200, you figure it can hold about an hour of video which is about the same as a tape.

I see foreign tourists around here with these tiny camcorders I've never seen before and I wonder if they are flash based. I know flash memory is pretty slow when it comes to writing on them but I'm sure these companies can work around that problem.
 
MiniDV records at about 13GB/Hour of video. If you go straight to mpeg2, which I don't recommend because it is a bitch to edit, you can go smaller, but still, this would require a huge memory card, which they don't really make yet, and they would be too slow as well probably as mentioned as well. As for recording to hard drives, these units cost anywhere from about $450 - 2200. They start at about 20GB. They are not very practical for consumers because they are often bigger than the camera this market buys. If you have a prosumer or definitely a pro camera, you can mount these on the back of the camera. You could always use a strap as well and hold it over your shoulder.
 
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: Eli
eh...

Flash may be cheap, but they still don't have the sizes available to be able to record even say, 30 minutes of high qaulity video.

We'd need like 80gb flash cards to make it worth it....
Click to expand...

But realize 4.7Gb is good enough for 3 hours of DVD quality MPEG2. I've seen 3Gb flash cards out on the market and with 1Gb cards under $200, you figure it can hold about an hour of video which is about the same as a tape.

I see foreign tourists around here with these tiny camcorders I've never seen before and I wonder if they are flash based. I know flash memory is pretty slow when it comes to writing on them but I'm sure these companies can work around that problem.
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I believe the only camcorders that record directly to MPEG2 are the mini-DVD ones. And frankly, from what I've seen, the quality sucks.

It takes a while to encode to MPEG2 and have it look decent - even for a PC.

Plus, as another poster noted - it's a bitch to edit MPEG2 files. Best to do it in raw AVI format.

I like the idea of an internal hard drive though. Not sure why this hasn't caught on. A laptop size hard drive taking the place of the DV cassette? 40GB should be enough for 2 hours of raw uncompressed AVI. Transfer it to your PC via Firewire in minutes (not hours, if you were playing back from a tape).
 
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