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\Does anyone know what the problem can be?

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DemonEdge

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This is how my problem started off. I was happy playing CS and WoW, and while playing WoW my monitor shut up and I believe my PC stopped responding. (Windows auto restart was ticked off), I restarted my comp and proceeded palying, same thing happened. After this the GFX card stopped giving signal to my monitor, and I got it replaced.

So I get my GFX card replaced, and to my surprise my PC works fine for 2-3 days. Then the problem happens again, I believe while playing WoW. I resrtaed my computers and run CS 1.6 for a while, restarts. Now as my PC was switching on, as it got the the Windows XP loading bar it would shut up before I got to accounts page, it obviously wouldnt let me. I tried again and this time the screen crashed, with flashing diagonall boxes and rectangles smothered across the screen, it would flash 3-4 times then monitor switch off.

So I gave it to my PC friend who made the PC for me, and he said there was a 'hiccup' at the start and fixed it. I get my PC back a few days ago and its working fine, then when plaing WoW few days ago it happened again, I restrtaed computer and got a message from windows report saying Graphics drivers cxould be a problem. Thats funny, I've gotten this message when the other crashes happened, but all the times Ive ahd differant drivers, ones being the stock drivers. So Im back where I was, I cant get to the accounts page. Ive gotten message Overclocking Failed (CPU is at stock) and reverted to original settings, I opened side panel to check if its heating, its not. Then on the monitor a message came up, If I remember clearly it said something like 255.8hz, frequency out of range, try other resolution. My desktop is at 1024x740, my games run at 1280x1024 (my monitor should be able to handle thios, along with my 6800GT PNY 256mb). I tried entering safe mode and it let me, but I couldnt change the resolution, instead I done system restore to a few days back, problem still persists. I tried to run memtest 86, problem still persists. Ive tried just about everything, and Im starting to think it could be my PSU.

Specs:
AMD 3500+ Winchester @ stock
2 x 512mb CorsairXMS DDR400 (running at 200mhz) 3200 CL2 ram (I tried setting the DD voltage to 2.8,2.7 styill no chance, also changed Cas Latency on 2,2.5 and 3, no chance)
A8V Deluxe
PNY 6800GT 256mb @ stock
420w raidmax PSU 13 A on the 12v (came with case) <---- Culprit?

If the PSU was the problem, how come I could enter safe mode and not normal mode or last good known config? Also why wouild it work for few days then stop?
Can somebody please help me? 🙂

edit: I have also checked the PC on my friends monitor and problem still came. The plug into the PC is 230v like it recommends.
 
Originally posted by: DemonEdge
If the PSU was the problem, how come I could enter safe mode and not normal mode or last good known config? Also why wouild it work for few days then stop?
Can somebody please help me? 🙂
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Try looking at the RAM and the Power Supply very carefully. 98% of these kind of issues are directly related to one, the other, or both.

Since it appears to be happening during a CPU-intensive process (as well as GFX card intensive process) the chances of the PS being the culprit are very high. When both your CPU and 6800 are drawing full juice it may well be overloading it. 13A on the 12V is rather low. I'd reccommend borrowing another PS to test it out.
 
Hmmm. Might be the PSU. How long have you been running your PC with that CPU and video card?

Can you try swapping the PSU with one that has a higher power rating?

RoD
 
I dunno about the monitor thing but I cant get my PC on to even inmstall the .inf files if I haven't. I can buy an Enermax 485w Dual rails 16A on 12v Per rail and see if it works with that ...

P.S Im in UK
 
What bios are you using? Asus has had probs with versions lower than 1009 incorrectly reporting oc problems
 
If you think your not getting enough power, unplug unecessary devices like all your cd/dvd rom drives, camera, lights, extra harddrives. 420watts is more then enough to play a game while having your cpu and video card vigoriously use the power. CS 1.6 barely uses any resources for a computer of your magnitude.

Anyways, i dont understand how replacing your video card fixed the problem for 2/3 days. reset your bios to default settings, and check video card temperatures... video card might be overheating for some odd reason.

i once purchased a new video card brand new and it was defective, i returned got my refund and this time bought an Nvidia instead of an ATI and after 1 day i got same problem, i returned and it wasnt until the 3rd time that the video card was working right... might just be the video card....
 
420w raidmax PSU 13 A on the 12v (came with case) <---- Culprit?

yes. 13amp with your system configuration is asking for reboots and hardware failures. You need at least 20amps at this point on the 12v rail to be totally safe. I would upgrade the psu.
 
Also, you seem to be saying you set the PSU's input selector for 230 volts. Is that the normal voltage at the wall outlet in the country where you live? I live in the United States and we use 115 volts here. Your profile isn't visible, so I can't tell where you're from.
 
I'm lining up behind the other guys who are pointing at the power supply. Freebie power supplies that come with cases (especially flashy ricer cases with lights & windows) are a frequent source of problems. More rice, less meat... eh? 😉
 
Please read Power Supply 101. With a 6800 GT graphics card, you will need a minimum of (20-24) Amperes on the 12V rail (power line). The originally mentioned 485W Enermax with only 16A on the 12V rail is not enough. There are 350W PSU's with 18A on the 12V rail, so do not rely solely on the wattage of the PSU.

The mentioned Enermax with dual 12V rails should work if your motherboard has connections for both rails. I notice the dual 8 and 9 cm fans and think that may be a loud power supply. A single 12cm fan should be quieter.
 
I only mentioned one PSU nd that was the DUal rail Enermax 😱
I use an A8V Deluxe mobo but I dont know if that supports the dual rail? Anyone know?
 
Also, just thinking, the 6800GT is reccomended 24A on the 12v, but on one rail...sharing power with the other hardware aswell I think, but on a dual rail, with the video card having its own rail (18A) will this be more powerful than it being on a PSU with one rail of 24A? Because its getting the full 18A for itself instead of sharing 24-30A with other hardware?
Just wanna be sure before I go off and order it ;p
 
yeah, someone needs to sticky something that says "don't uset the crappy PSU that came with your case" (unless of course its an antec)
 
DemonEdge, Yes, you are correct in your assumption that two 12V rails with 16 or 18 Amps should be enough for your system with the 6800 GT graphics card. But then I have neither a high powered graphics card nor a dual 12V rail PSU. I do not know how the dual rails connect with the motherboard.
 
when you start in safe mode only the very basics get power (unless you select cdrom support) try starting in safe mode and run dxdiagnostics,you might have lost the drivers for your agp (look in system imformation- tools directx diagnostics ),run all the tests,also since it will post in safe mode check for problem devices,its a sub-catagory in components
 
My computer did that once... "Frequency out of range" im like WTF? It turned out to be a stick of ram that was loose (after my computer was being handled quite roughly during "shipping" at a lanparty).
 
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