AznMaverick
Platinum Member
I tried googling it, couldn't find it. I'm pretty sure that it is R12 but not all that sure.
Originally posted by: Eli
Right on the cusp, so it could be either or.. ?
Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
eBay is the place to go if you want to get R-12. Most mechanics will charge at least $50 a pound.
Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
eBay is the place to go if you want to get R-12. Most mechanics will charge at least $50 a pound.
Ummm isn't that just a little illegal?
Originally posted by: Shawn
If it's 93 it's most likely R12. You can fill it with R134a but it won't cool as well.
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
My camry is a '93 and uses R12. You can buy a conversion kit..I think it's some new o-rings and something that will let you use R-134a
Originally posted by: NutBucket
That's bull. It will not "fry" the compressor.
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Well, I know plenty of people who evacuate and fill with R134 and the correct lube. Works great.
Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
Originally posted by: NutBucket
That's bull. It will not "fry" the compressor.
Yes it will. R134a does not carry mineral oil and leads to lubricant starvation, which obvious causes compressor failure. If you retrofit properly with proper lubricant, it is ok, but my response was to "you can just add r134a".
Read this
In summary, retrofitting to R-134a refrigerant in most cases can be done very easily and cost effectively. Removing the old mineral oil from the system is not always essential. As long as you add the new PAG or POE oil, proper oil return can be expected. Depending on the level of system performance you or your customers expect, R-134a retrofitting can be accomplished on most vehicles with little if any system changes. Remember, always consult the vehicle manufacturer for any specific guidelines they may have.
Originally posted by: C'DaleRider
Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
Originally posted by: NutBucket
That's bull. It will not "fry" the compressor.
Yes it will. R134a does not carry mineral oil and leads to lubricant starvation, which obvious causes compressor failure. If you retrofit properly with proper lubricant, it is ok, but my response was to "you can just add r134a".
Read this
But the article you linked to says this at the end:
In summary, retrofitting to R-134a refrigerant in most cases can be done very easily and cost effectively. Removing the old mineral oil from the system is not always essential. As long as you add the new PAG or POE oil, proper oil return can be expected. Depending on the level of system performance you or your customers expect, R-134a retrofitting can be accomplished on most vehicles with little if any system changes. Remember, always consult the vehicle manufacturer for any specific guidelines they may have.
Seems to discount your statement. As long as you add the POE or PAG, and I'd honestly replace the receiver/drier to make sure you've got as much old oil out as possible, then the retrofit is typically quite easy. Seems to sure work for lots of people with not a lot of problems.