Does anyone know of an IDE to SATA adapter that REALLY WORKS?

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Does anyone know of an IDE to SATA adapter that REALLY WORKS? I have tried "Rosebud" RC-204, HighPoint RocketHead 100, and Syba, and none of them work for all drives. I was only able to get ONE of them to "sort of work" with an Asus DVD-ROM drive (the Syba, even though I just found out it's only supposed to work with HD's), but it won't work in DMA mode, only PIO! And the drive is an ATA100 drive.

I'm using the Native Intel SATA ICH5 controller, not the 3rd-party (Promise) SATA controller. (Mobo chipset is 875P).

There has got to be some good ones out there that will work with both HD's and optical drives while retaining their previous UDMA status. ?
Thanks.
 

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Are you trying to use them as a permanent solution, or are they not working for temporary use?
 

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Thanks for the reply. Permanent. I don't want to use the Promise controller anymore and I don't like slaving drives. The mobo has 2 Native SATA connectors and 2 IDE Native (and 2 SATA & 1 IDE Promise), and I have one SATA WD740ADFD, but 3 IDE drives. ;) (1 DVD, 1 DVD-RW, 1 storage backup HD). I don't really care which IDE drive uses an adapter. But I would like to find a reliable IDE > SATA adapter that works on HD's and optical drives.
 

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On every SATA RAID controller I've had, they have always given stern warnings about using IDE-SATA adapters for anything except temporary use. What about getting a simple IDE controller and using that? They are cheap to get as you won't need one for RAID, so it will set you back a little money and a PCI slot. Just a thought for an alternative.
Also, SATA optical drives are so cheap right now, you could get a SATA Lightscribe burner for $34 (there are cheaper ones--I just like this one), and then you just have one IDE drive to worry about.
 

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
On every SATA RAID controller I've had, they have always given stern warnings about using IDE-SATA adapters for anything except temporary use.
Why is that? BTW, I'm not using RAID for anything. I know at the HighPoint site it said that adapter is not supported on ICH5R controllers, and that's what mine is, but, it's being used as an ICH5, no RAID. I don't know if that means anything or not. I would think they'd support about the most prevelant/popular controller out there, or was at least.


What about getting a simple IDE controller and using that? They are cheap to get as you won't need one for RAID, so it will set you back a little money and a PCI slot. Just a thought for an alternative.
I have some controller cards, I wanted to avoid that because I hate having to "shell out more IRQ's" and deal with more IDE cables. :roll: I also have SATA controller cards which is what I'd do over that of an IDE card if I had to go with a card since they're of course much easier to manage cable wise.


Also, SATA optical drives are so cheap right now, you could get a SATA Lightscribe burner for $34 (there are cheaper ones--I just like this one), and then you just have one IDE drive to worry about.
I wanted SATA DVD-ROM and DVD-RW drives, the problem is I could not find one that had all top ratings. Every one I could find that had ratings had numerous DOA and other strange issues. Even that one you linked to has a bunch of bad ratings on the first page (sorted by lowest rating first: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...eoOnlyMark=False&Page= ). %'age wise that's not that bad, almost 500 ratings @ an average of 4 stars, but still a lot of issues. Evidently they are either "too new" or all plagued with flaky firmware. That's why I got the Asus DRW-1608P3S (which is flashed to a Pioneer 111L), it had all top remarks at the time I bought it, even better than the 111L (maybe I should have left it a 1608P3S, LOL, :roll:), and the Asus DVD-E616A2 which also had all great reviews. It also has the largest buffer I've ever seen on a ROM drive, 2mb, and ATA100. It's not that I'm particularly big on Asus drives, that's just the way it happened to turn out. ;) They are both new.

I'm still looking though for new SATA DVD burners and watching the ratings and reviews. Looks like Blu-Ray are the only ones with a decent buffer and all good reviews, but too expensive right now. FAIK that technology could flake-out like other DVD formats.

The adapters I have are "supposed" to work with IDE HD's, so I guess that's what I will try next. If the HD's work ok, then.....ok. But it would be nice to find an adapter that will work with any IDE drive.

I had a POS Plextor 712SA that crapped out on me. (They're crap now made by someone else and NOT what they used to be in the 708 days). The one good thing about it, is it had a SATA adapter on it, it was not a true SATA drive but bridged. I removed it, and that adapter was awesome and worked for everything. Where is it now? Who knows!! Lost the SOB. :disgust: I tend to lose things a lot. :D
 

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I used I believe it was an Abit IDE-to-SATA adapter (I can't remember.. I threw out the box when I moved) for a long time with no issues. It was to convert an IDE HD I had to SATA as I ran out of IDE ports on my old Asus A7N8X Deluxe Rev 1.04 (When SATA 1.5 was incredibly new technology and barely supported.) It worked fine, I just had to install a Silicon Image SATA driver to get SATA drives working (Like the Raptor.) I used that adapter for about 2-3 years or so until I finally retired it and upgraded to my current rig. I'd say 2-3 years is pretty high up there with "permanent use."

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Here it is - Abit Serillel
 

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I don't understand this, but I gave it one last try and now the Asus DVD-ROM drive is fully working fine with the Rosewill RC-204 adapter! :confused: :beer: It's showing up in the Device Manager as UDMA 5. The only thing different I did was use another SATA cable since I took the drive out of my case so it would be easier to test the adapters again. This SATA cable is a SATA II cable, and shielded braided copper. I don't see how that would make any difference unless the other (typical standard) SATA cable was flaky.
 

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It's possible, I actually prefer the SATA2 cables with the metal latches because I had issues with the original SATA cables being loose or coming off entirely from the connector and that can cause obvious problems. Even if not, cables can be faulty, good to have spares. :)
 

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If you're just trying to copy some things from an IDE drive, this thing looks interesting. I don't know how well it works. I just thought it was cheap and interesting. It's an IDE to USB converter for $14.99 at Surplus Computers. I've bought Power DVD CDs there for $5.99 shipped.

IDE To USB Drive Cable