Does anyone here actually take legible notes in class with a tablet?

[GoodEnough]

Tablet legibility looks like dogsh/t, quite frankly. It's unreadable chicken scratch that looks like a 5 year old's crayon writing, and a total farce to try to read in the future. Do the touch screen (not capacitive) tablets fare much better? Can someone actually take detailed PRECISION notes in a Calculus class, for example? Or is this best for basic stuff like grocery lists?

 

[xSauronx]

use something with predictive text or a swype like keyboard to type notes.
Last thing I used was a netbook to type notes out, but I am fairly quick with swype on a tablet and could probably short hand most of what i needed to.

Use an app that will sync with a website/desktop app, like ever-note or one note (i love one note) so you can view/edit notes however you like.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

You would probably need something with a wacom digitizier built in. Like a Surface RT or Surface Pro.

 

[ChronoReverse]

TabletPC's with wacom active digitizers will do a great job.

Stuff like iPads or Android tablets using capacitive styluses will be terrible.

 

[GoodEnough]

No, I am not talking wacom pads...I am talking like a Dell Latitude 10.
Do people take take detailed precise notes in class on something like this?
Or does it look like crayon writing that is basically useless when referred to later on?

 

[ChronoReverse]

Erm, the stylus technology in the Dell Latitude 10 is wacom technology. We're not talking about a separate writing slate here; it's built into the screen. (Of course, there's a version of the 10 that doesn't have wacom so it's much less accurate).

 

[GoodEnough]

So you can use it to take notes like this? Particularly that graph at the bottom?

 

[ChronoReverse]

Yes, you can do insanely detailed drawings with Wacom technology since there's over 128 (up to 1024 in the latest ones) levels of pressure sensitivity and high precision tracking of the stylus tip.

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/tab...t-pc-art-some-images-might-not-safe-work.html. Take a look at some of the nicer drawings in this thread.

Regular screens like styluses for iPads can't come close to tablets with Wacom active digitizers.


Also, you'll want to take notes using OneNote. It's an AMAZING app for taking notes.

 

[dlock13]

Yes, you can do insanely detailed drawings with Wacom technology since there's over 128 (up to 1024 in the latest ones) levels of pressure sensitivity and high precision tracking of the stylus tip.

http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/tab...t-pc-art-some-images-might-not-safe-work.html

Regular screens like styluses for iPads can't come close to tablets with Wacom active digitizers.


Also, you'll want to take notes using OneNote. It's an AMAZING app for taking notes.

Do you know offhand how many levels there are on the Note 2 or 10.1?

 

[ChronoReverse]

I think it was 128 for the Note 1 and 256 for the Note 2.

[edit]No it was 256 for the Note 1 and the full 1024 for the Note 2 wow[/edit]

But the precision of my Note 1's digitizer is noticeably worse than my older HP tabletPC.

 

[GoodEnough]

Wow, nice art link. Had no idea this was possible
It sounds like you can take seriously detailed notes if you can draw like that.
The KEY is that only tablets with Wacom tech will be true college notetaking apps.
If you tried to draw that on a capacitive Nexus 7, it would look like this, right?

 

[ChronoReverse]

Pretty much. Capacitive styluses (like for iPads or Android tablets) are really crappy. Like you described it, crayon precision.


True active digitizers give you great precision and sensitivity. When I used my tabletPC, I also had a matte screen protector in order to make the drawing feel more like paper.

 

[GoodEnough]

So, is the Wacom technology in the touch screen or the special stylus, or both?
ie: What is required to take detailed precision notes if you own a Dell Latitude 10?

 

[ChronoReverse]

It's both. The Wacom digitizer requires a Wacom stylus (they're all compatible though so you can buy one that feels like a real pen). The stylus is completely passive and can feature working buttons. My pen even has an (pressure sensitive) eraser tip on the other end.

For the Dell Latitude 10, a quick google shows that the Wacom digitizer is an optional component. If you didn't take it when you purchased it, then there's no way to get it.

(My tabletPC is a bit older and my hands aren't that steady so I estimate I got about 0.7mm lead accuracy out of it but seeing other people's work leads me to think that the actual accuracy is greater than that).

 

[GoodEnough]

Chrono, can you show me where I can pick the option for Wacom?
Curious how much extra it costs.
http://www.dell.com/us/p/latitude-10-tablet/fs

 

[ChronoReverse]

Huh. It turns out I was looking at a different Latitude 10?

http://configure.dell.com/dellstore...latitude-10-tablet&c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1

 

[GoodEnough]

I see the stylus for $35, but don't see the Wacom option for the tablet itself.

 

[ChronoReverse]

That model comes with Wacom technology

 

[GoodEnough]

Can that level of Wacom detail be done on an iPad?
Do people take graduate level physics courses with an iPad for notes?\
Or is this strictly the domain of Wacom devices like Dell and Samsung?

 

[ChronoReverse]

The regular capacitive screen of the iPad isn't precise enough. There are some crazy styluses that improve it but it's not in the same league.


Also, I can't recommend the Android Samsung Note tablets for this sort of thing. They're alright but they can't run the full version of Microsoft OneNote (only real Windows can run that, not even Windows Mobile). They're still more precise than regular tablets though.

Even the Latitude 10 isn't that great since it's powered by the weak Atom but it'll at least be better than the Note tablets.

 

[GoodEnough]

Bottom line, the best solution for detailed precised scientific note taking is Latitude 10 with Wacom tech and wacom stylus.

 

[Wonderful Pork]

Bottom line, the best solution for detailed precised scientific note taking is Latitude 10 with Wacom tech and wacom stylus.

...or a good ole fashion pen & paper :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

But yes, you are correct. I'm hoping Apple eventually adds a stylus, though I'm not holding my breath. Some of the active stylii aren't supported by the apps I use, and I would absolutely LOVE to consolidate my notebooks into 1 iPad which I can search through evernote - that would make life handy.

 

[Red Storm]

My uncle who is a professor bought himself a Galaxy Note 10.1 specifically for the stylus. He's happy with it.

 

[Chocu1a]

Note 10.1 actually has a formula match option, you handwrite it, it transcribes it for you.

 

[GoodEnough]

Capacitive doesn't allow precise writing. The touch-sensitive surface (resistive) does. Assuming the tablet Wacom is enabled for the "precise" stylus, is this what you need?
General ballpark is $20?
http://www.amazon.com/Bamboo-Solo-St.../dp/B004VM0SE6