Does anyone have any experience with Arizonian Tires?

Herr Kutz

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On my way home from my recent vacation I decided to make a slight detour so I could make another pass at the Ice Lake Trail near Silverton, CO. I was set to go and made it a few steps when I realized I had forgotten something in my car, so I turned around and set my back on the ground next to the front driver side tire and noticed a completely bald spot on my tire. I took a closer look and part of the tire was ripped so I figured a blow out was imminent.

Bald spot:
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Tear in tire:

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I really did not want to put new tires on this vehicle since I plan to purchase another in the near future, but my hand was pretty much forced since it would take a while to purchase a new vehicle and I don't drive around with my car's title in case I want to trade it in on a whim. I drove back to Durango, CO and spent the night looking at tires. I had previously done some research in case I really had to replace the tires and settled on Continental Truecontact based on reviews and price, or if those were difficult to get I would go with Michelin Premier A/S or Michelin Defenders again. Of course, Discount Tire doesn't appear to stock anything but their in house brands, and everything else is special order. I really didn't want to drive on my spare for 1200+ miles so I went ahead and purchased a set of 4 Arizonian Silver Edition III (apparently made my Cooper for Discount Tire). The good thing is that I was out of there for $430 with all taxes (lower than my home state) and recycling fees. I also discussed the issue of my TPMS light with the sales guy/installer and said that I thought one (or more) of the batteries had gone bad so my light would flash for about a minute and then come on solid. He said they would test them and shortly after he came back and said they were all responding so they should be able to get the light off. Sure enough, they came through, and I no longer have to stare at the light like I'd been doing for the past ~2 years. Apparently the issue may have been that the light wasn't reset at some point by a shop that had rotated the tires (?). To be honest, I think it wasn't long after I had gotten the Michelin Defenders that the light came on, but I didn't think that was connected because it did not come on immediately after getting the new tires on.

Anyway, what I've noticed with this new set of tires is that at interstate speeds they do not seem to be as stable as my old Defenders even though the Defenders were nearly bald. I'm not sure if new tires take some time to break in, but I've put about 1300 miles on them, and they still feel the same. However, I do notice that I do not spin out when coming from a dead stop when there is a good bit of gravel and dust beneath the tires. I also haven't had a chance to really test them in the rain at higher speeds, but at low speeds (max 40mph) today they seemed okay. Road noise also seemed about on par with my Defenders, but I listen to my radio a lot. Another thing I noticed on my drive back from Colorado is that my car will pull pretty hard to the left to where it requires constant and pretty forceful effort to prevent from crossing over in to the lane next to me which turned out to be absolutely infuriating on a long drive. Would an alignment fix this? Does anyone have any experience with how well these tires wear? They have a 55k mile rating which seemed pretty low for their price.

New tire:
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IronWing

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I had a set on my Brady wagon. They were decent enough road tires, no problems with traction. I sold the car when the tires were relatively new so I can't comment on their longevity. An alignment sounds like a good idea.
 

NutBucket

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IMHO the uneven wear you had indicates a definite alignment issue. I'd get it looked at before you ruin a new set of tires.
 
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Herr Kutz

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The tread on my old tires was very close in depth (the bald part notwithstanding) and it tracked straight before changing the tires out. I wonder if the speed tests had anything to do with the tire's condition?
 

lxskllr

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Looks like more than a bald "spot" to me. Looks like the whole outside edge was ground off. I'm surprised they didn't try to sell you an alignment with the tires.
 

Herr Kutz

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Looks like more than a bald "spot" to me. Looks like the whole outside edge was ground off. I'm surprised they didn't try to sell you an alignment with the tires.

Yeah that's what I was thinking, but I'm not sure what caused it. What's weird is that a completely different tire (front passenger side) kept losing about 10lbs of pressure overnight for several days in a row, and then it stayed stable.
 

NutBucket

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Dude, just get an alignment. I don't think Discount Tire does alignments hence no up sell :)
 

Midwayman

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If you don't get an alignment you will 100% destroy your new tires. That is in no way normal wear.
 
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NutBucket

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I will throw money on the table that says you have a toe issue.

Lucky for you the old tires were in need of replacement anyway.
 
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I'll just echo what was said above. It was definitely time for new tires, and you should definitely get an alignment whenever you put new tires on.

It doesn't really matter if the Arizonians are any good, since you want to get rid of the car, right?

Most of the tire places I've been to don't do alignments, which is lame. But I suppose it helps them sell more tires.

I don't know what kind of car you have exactly, but as far as private party sales go, I would absolutely not buy a car with tires that looked like your first picture, since my assumption is that anybody who let their tires get that bad probably let a bunch of other stuff go too.
 

jtvang125

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Arizonian Tires are made by Cooper Tires strictly for America Tires. I can't seem to find if Cooper Tires makes them in China or not but I think America Tires would be reluctant to jeopardize their reputation by using Chinese made tires.

We picked up a set earlier this month for my wife's suv. Noise and traction is better than the Bridgestone runflats it came with. Like you mentioned these tend to track more with imperfections in the road but I think this has more to do with needing an alignment than the tires. The old tires had uneven wear on several of them. This actually reminds me that I need to take it in for an alignment.
 

NoCreativity

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Arizonian Tires are made by Cooper Tires strictly for America Tires.

They are sold at Discount Tire as well. I have a set of Mastercraft tires which are also made by Cooper. I think it's like mattresses where they rebadge the same models for different stores so people have a hard time comparison shopping.