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Question Does a purchase of a E5-1650v3 make sense today?

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aigomorla

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personally i think Dell looks nicer aesthetically.
The HP will probably be cheaper if you need to source replacement parts tho.

The HP motherboard will probably also have better compatibility with outside hardware then dell.
 
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hello @Arkaign
what do you think of below configuration for 3D animation and high quality games.

Dell T5810 Workstation
Processor: E5-1650v3 3.5ghz
6 core physical 6 core virtual ,12 threads.
RAM: 128GB DDR4 original Server RAM with Load Balancing 6 gbps enterprise SSD
SSD: 512GB
2 tb seagate skyhowk hdd
GPU: Nvidia Quadro k2200 4gb professional Graphics Card

if i replace GPU which one could make it best for 3d animation and gaming use?

Thanks
 
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NTMBK

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hello @Arkaign
what do you think of below configuration for 3D animation and high quality games.

Dell T5810 Workstation
Processor: E5-1650v3 3.5ghz
6 core physical 6 core virtual ,12 threads.
RAM: 128GB DDR4 original Server RAM with Load Balancing 6 gbps enterprise SSD
SSD: 512GB
2 tb seagate skyhowk hdd
GPU: Nvidia Quadro k2200 4gb professional Graphics Card

if i replace GPU which one could make it best for 3d animation and gaming use?

Thanks
What price are they charging for it? If you can get a really good bargain on it, it might be worth going for. But bear in mind that you might be stuck with that GPU for a while- there's currently a big shortage in graphics cards.
 
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onkarlad

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What price are they charging for it? If you can get a really good bargain on it, it might be worth going for. But bear in mind that you might be stuck with that GPU for a while- there's currently a big shortage in graphics cards.
exactly same thing is happening... i am getting it for only $1050..its not used much.. But there is confusion with GPU as there is shortage and rates are too high..
 

LightningZ71

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I'm with a lot of you here. The place that I work for is retiring for disposal a batch of older servers and I'm going to be getting a lot of 16GB ECC-DDR4-2400 Dimms and a few E5-2630 V4 processors. I've been meaning to upgrade my current home server to something larger and have my eye on a barebones HP Z840 to put the RAM and CPUs in. I can find them cheaply enough, and, with the 2630V4 being an 85W processor, there's not much of a concern about the PSU either. 20 Boradwell cores, 8 channels of 16GB DDR4 at 2133 speeds; that's not a bad little VM server for the house. I already have the drives on hand too.

If I wanted to, all over Ebay, you can find E5-2690 V4s for VERY good prices. That's 14 cores each, 3.5Ghz boost/2.6Ghz base, 35 MB L3 per processor, only dual ring buses (anything with higher cores in that generation had three ring buses), 40 PCIe lanes per processor (+8 more from the chipset) and it runs the RAM at 2400. It does suffer a little in single core tasks, but, you don't get significantly faster than that, until the 3000 series Threadrippers. On anything that spills out of cache, the 2000 series Threadrippers take a significant hit on the 17th and above cores. That's about the sweet spot with Broadwell Xeon on the used market. You can get more, but slower cores, for a reasonable price, but if you want the top end SKUs (22 cores on the 2699), they still command a significant price. For gaming, you really won't beat the E5-1680 V4 (8 cores, 4.0Ghz boost) for flexibility (in other words, its a decent gamer, but still has good usefulness for productivity) until you get to the 8700 (though short of cores)/9900 (beats it everywhere).
 

fleshconsumed

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Eh, unless you're in need of actual server hardware it's typically no longer worth getting used Xeons. In the past used/decommissioned Xeons was the most cost effective way to get lots of cores. Since Ryzen came out used Xeons are no longer really worth it. Even a simple AM4 provides up to 16 4Ghz clocked cores. I would only recommend buying Xeons if you have r\homelab aspirations.
 

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Eh, unless you're in need of actual server hardware it's typically no longer worth getting used Xeons. In the past used/decommissioned Xeons was the most cost effective way to get lots of cores. Since Ryzen came out used Xeons are no longer really worth it. Even a simple AM4 provides up to 16 4Ghz clocked cores. I would only recommend buying Xeons if you have r\homelab aspirations.
IDK, you can get really cheap CPUs that are Xeons. I think as long as you have board to drop them in there are some pretty stellar "deals" out there.

I picked up $15 (shipped) haswell 4c/8T ~3.3ghz CPU, right now getting even an older i7 can cost quite a bit. Shopping just a speed bin or two from the top reveals a lot of cheap CPUs on a per core basis.

Which isn't to say you aren't better off in the long run with the desktop platforms, lots of folks probably are, but there are use cases that make sense.

@LightningZ71 was talking about a 14C xeon for ~$250. I mean, I would still think a 10850k might be a better Intel route for most just $100 more but if you have access to the right board and memory, the Xeon might make sense. The Xeon has ECC, PCIe and cache all in its favor.
 

MrTeal

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It's probably worth it if you need the RAM and you get add in 256GB and 20 cores for minimal cost. A 5950X system would be faster of course, but if you wanted to add that much ram you're looking at $1000 right there.
 

LightningZ71

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That's kind of my reasoning. I have enough sticks of ram to fill every socket, and two processors. I'm not going to beat that system for anywhere close to that money anywhere. I admit that I am in a very special situation, and most won't have access to those parts already. However, used Z840s with a couple of processors and a few sticks of RAM aren't that pricey. Unless you REALLY need the single core performance, its a solid foundation to build from to get you started now, instead of saving up for something more capable down the road. Except for AVX-512, and the handful of new instructions that have been introduced since Skylake came along, there's nothing that it can't do. If you need superfast NVME storage, there are inexpensive expansion cards for that.
 

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