Does a progressive scan dvd player make a big difference?

[aphex]

Currently using a non-progressive scan dvd player on my new hdtv... Should i upgrade to progressive scan? Noticable difference?

 

[Darthvoy]

I think it is just a marketing scheme. I don't notice any difference between the two.

 

[PhoenixOrion]

Yes, there is noticeable difference in smoother image quality especially if the progressive scan dvd player has auto 3:2 pulldown detection.

 

[rancidcrabtree]

Some TV's actually do as good or better job of descaling than the dvd player. However, with a dvd player that doesn't even offer the progressive option, I'd be a little more worried about the quality of its output (color accuracy etc.). You got a HDTV, spend a liitle on the dvd player!


kev

 

[PhoenixOrion]

Not to mention that you can get prog scan player at sub $100 and its that time of the year for some santa claus to get it for you.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: rancidcrabtree
Some TV's actually do as good or better job of descaling than the dvd player. However, with a dvd player that doesn't even offer the progressive option, I'd be a little more worried about the quality of its output (color accuracy etc.). You got a HDTV, spend a liitle on the dvd player!


kev

Well i just didnt know if its worth shelling out $80 or so for the same image

Its a Panasonic 30" Widescreen (30WX54) if it helps....

 

[rancidcrabtree]

Tis better to have loved and have lost than to have never loved before.


or something like that


kev

 

[cHeeZeFacTory]

unless your dvd player has a real good deinterlacer, your tv will probably do a better job.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: rancidcrabtree
Some TV's actually do as good or better job of descaling than the dvd player. However, with a dvd player that doesn't even offer the progressive option, I'd be a little more worried about the quality of its output (color accuracy etc.). You got a HDTV, spend a liitle on the dvd player!


kev

Well i just didnt know if its worth shelling out $80 or so for the same image

Its a Panasonic 30" Widescreen (30WX54) if it helps....

Probably not worth it. Save your money. Will make a bigger difference with a larger TV.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: rancidcrabtree
Some TV's actually do as good or better job of descaling than the dvd player. However, with a dvd player that doesn't even offer the progressive option, I'd be a little more worried about the quality of its output (color accuracy etc.). You got a HDTV, spend a liitle on the dvd player!


kev

Well i just didnt know if its worth shelling out $80 or so for the same image

Its a Panasonic 30" Widescreen (30WX54) if it helps....

Probably not worth it. Save your money. Will make a bigger difference with a larger TV.

Thats what i was assuming... I wouldnt mind DVD-A/SACD playback, but don't have the speakers/reciever for it yet

What about those Upconvert dvd players, are those worth the $200+ price tag?

 

[PhoenixOrion]

Now that's a marketing ploy.

how could a player upconvert to 1080i when dvd discs are made at only of 720x480 progressive.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: PhoenixOrion
Now that's a marketing ploy.

how could a player upconvert to 1080i when dvd discs are made at only of 720x480 progressive.

No idea... My HD-PVR does a decent job upconverting a SD signal. It just seems to clean up the image some.

 

[Apex]

Upconversion is great, if the scaler in your DVD player is better than the one in your digital display. No marketing ploy at all, but the quality difference really depends on these factors. For those with analog displays (CRT), it's seriously not worth it.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: Apex
Upconversion is great, if the scaler in your DVD player is better than the one in your digital display. No marketing ploy at all, but the quality difference really depends on these factors. For those with analog displays (CRT), it's seriously not worth it.

What exactly is a scaler? Also, if i do end up upgrading my dvd player... What are your recs? Anything decent in the < $100 range? What about that Samsung Upconvert dvd player for like $180, any good?

 

[aphex]

Or even this one (from your site), http://www.onecall.com/PID_24779.htm

 

[Wingznut]

I definitely notice a difference with progressive scan on my 51" RPTV... Not sure if you'd notice on a 30" CRT, though.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: rancidcrabtree
Some TV's actually do as good or better job of descaling than the dvd player. However, with a dvd player that doesn't even offer the progressive option, I'd be a little more worried about the quality of its output (color accuracy etc.). You got a HDTV, spend a liitle on the dvd player!


kev

Well i just didnt know if its worth shelling out $80 or so for the same image

Its a Panasonic 30" Widescreen (30WX54) if it helps....

Probably not worth it. Save your money. Will make a bigger difference with a larger TV.

agreed.

But on a larger TV, with the DVD player doing the de-interlacing all digitally it can make for a great image.

 

[arod]

yeah 30 would probably be hard to tell but the quality would be improved.... i

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: Apex
Upconversion is great, if the scaler in your DVD player is better than the one in your digital display. No marketing ploy at all, but the quality difference really depends on these factors. For those with analog displays (CRT), it's seriously not worth it.

What exactly is a scaler? Also, if i do end up upgrading my dvd player... What are your recs? Anything decent in the < $100 range? What about that Samsung Upconvert dvd player for like $180, any good?

Please for the love of all things good and wholesome, avoid the Samsung upconverting DVD players. They're totally wrong for video. The output PC type levels (0-255) on their DVI instead of video type (16-235). Terrible. Think of the children! The children!

A scaler simply takes whatever resolution its fed, and changes it to another resolution. On a CRT display, there really is no "native" resolution, so it's not a huge deal. However, with a digital display (LCD, DLP, D-ILA, LCOS, SXRD, Plasma, etc) there is a native resolution, and that's why non-native resolutions look so bad on your typical computer LCD display. If the scaler in your DVD player is better than the one built in to your TV, than you'll see a noticable difference.

There's nothing decent around $100. The best bang for your buck is the Panasonic DVD-S97S, which is about $260. This being said, there's absolutely no reason to get it if you don't have a digital display.

 

[Rudee]

On my HDTV it (progressive scan) is a very noticable difference. On the 27" Sony I have in the den, not really noticable.

 

[mcveigh]

hook your pc up to it.

try using ffdshow with nvidia decoders....it's sweet.

 

[ElFenix]

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