Does a country have the RIGHT to 'mooch' off of the US military if it trades with the US?

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RabidMongoose

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This was discussed a little a couple of days ago and I don't really understand the logic behind it. Do many people feel this way?

I don't really see how any country would have an inherent right to 'mooch' off of the US military just because it trades with the US. Are there any instances where a country even has a right to 'mooch' off of another country's military?
 
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RabidMongoose

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Originally posted by: halik
what exactly are you talking about?
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Example: Canada trades with the US. Because of this trade, does it have some sort of 'right' to access the US military?

Note that this is different than saying 'should the US protect Canada?'...
 
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Well, I suppose we could always let another country just take them over. Shouldn't effect us TOOOOooooo much.

Is Canada mooching? They have their own army, send soldiers to foreign countries in support of UN measures. Are they mooching because they didn't help out the Bush regime in their take over of Iraq?
 
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RabidMongoose

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Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Well, I suppose we could always let another country just take them over. Shouldn't effect us TOOOOooooo much.

Is Canada mooching? They have their own army, send soldiers to foreign countries in support of UN measures. Are they mooching because they didn't help out the Bush regime in their take over of Iraq?
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But does Canada have a 'right' to 'mooch' off of the US military because it trades with the US?

I'm not saying that Canada is 'mooching' because of Iraq or even if they're 'mooching' at all. That was just an example.

The question isn't about if Canada or any other place is 'mooching' or not....just does any country have an inherent 'right' to access or 'mooch' off of the US military if it trades with the US?
 
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halik

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Well, I suppose we could always let another country just take them over. Shouldn't effect us TOOOOooooo much.

Is Canada mooching? They have their own army, send soldiers to foreign countries in support of UN measures. Are they mooching because they didn't help out the Bush regime in their take over of Iraq?
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But does Canada have a 'right' to 'mooch' off of the US military because it trades with the US?

I'm not saying that Canada is 'mooching' because of Iraq or even if they're 'mooching' at all. That was just an example.

The question isn't about if Canada or any other place is 'mooching' or not....just does any country have an inherent 'right' to access or 'mooch' off of the US military if it trades with the US?
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what do you mean by "mooching" ... give me a real world example
 
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CanOWorms

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I think the US has a right to mooch off of the Canadian healthcare system since the US is responsible for 75% of Canada's trade.
 
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RabidMongoose

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Well, I suppose we could always let another country just take them over. Shouldn't effect us TOOOOooooo much.

Is Canada mooching? They have their own army, send soldiers to foreign countries in support of UN measures. Are they mooching because they didn't help out the Bush regime in their take over of Iraq?
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But does Canada have a 'right' to 'mooch' off of the US military because it trades with the US?

I'm not saying that Canada is 'mooching' because of Iraq or even if they're 'mooching' at all. That was just an example.

The question isn't about if Canada or any other place is 'mooching' or not....just does any country have an inherent 'right' to access or 'mooch' off of the US military if it trades with the US?
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what do you mean by "mooching" ... give me a real world example
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I am not aware of a real world example going on or if one even exists. This is more of a hypothetical question.
 
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halik

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I think the US has a right to mooch off of the Canadian healthcare system since the US is responsible for 75% of Canada's trade.
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we can impose an embargo if we stop drinking labatt...
 
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I-S-R-A-E-L

Israel would have been destroyed 100 times over right now if it wasn't for the never ending stream of high technology weapons entering Israel from the US.

S-O-U-T-H K-O-R-E-A - obviously SK cannot defend itself against the DPRK.

I-R-A-Q - pre 1991, Iraq was most certainly a beneficiary of US military superiority.

I-N-D-O-N-E-S-I-A - in the 1970s the US military supporters the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of primitive-living natives in East Timor.

**There are countless other examples of this, so this is A VERY GOOD QUESTION**
 
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RabidMongoose

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Originally posted by: MAW1082
I-S-R-A-E-L

Israel would have been destroyed 100 times over right now if it wasn't for the never ending stream of high technology weapons entering Israel from the US.

S-O-U-T-H K-O-R-E-A - obviously SK cannot defend itself against the DPRK.

I-R-A-Q - pre 1991, Iraq was most certainly a beneficiary of US military superiority.

I-N-D-O-N-E-S-I-A - in the 1970s the US military supporters the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of primitive-living natives in East Timor.

**There are countless other examples of this, so this is A VERY GOOD QUESTION**
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You're answering a different question. You're stating that the US (and so do many other countries) protects or helps other countries.

I'm asking if these countries have an inherent right to use the US military. Do other countries have the 'right' to 'mooch' off of the US military because this country trades with the US, thereby fueling parts of the US economy which funds the military.

I would say that there is no inherent right to this.
 
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I'm not answering your question. I'm saying your question has more depth and far-reaching effects than Canada using our military. Nobody is going to mess with Canada because Canada doesn't mess with other countries.
 
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RabidMongoose

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Originally posted by: Czar
I still dont see what you are getting at
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I'm not really trying to get at anything. Just asking the question if any country has a right to use or 'mooch' off of countryX if it trades with that countryX.

Someone in another thread made this comment (it was off topic from the original post) and I was curious about it.

I suppose it would be something like what canoworms said:

I think the US has a right to mooch off of the Canadian healthcare system since the US is responsible for 75% of Canada's trade.
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But replace Canadian healthcare system with US military and change the percentages.
 
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freegeeks

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are you drunk??

seriously, like most people in here I don't have an idea what you are talking about
 
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RabidMongoose

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
are you drunk??

seriously, like most people in here I don't have an idea what you are talking about
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No I am not.

I know this is a strange question as it makes almost no sense. I suppose most answers would be no.

Do you believe that Belgium has some sort of inherent right to use or 'mooch' off of the US military? I would assume that you would say no, just like the US has no inherent RIGHT to 'mooch' off of any other military or foreign institution.
 
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freegeeks

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
are you drunk??

seriously, like most people in here I don't have an idea what you are talking about
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No I am not.

I know this is a strange question as it makes almost no sense. I suppose most answers would be no.

Do you believe that Belgium has some sort of inherent right to use or 'mooch' off of the US military? I would assume that you would say no, just like the US has no inherent RIGHT to 'mooch' off of any other military or foreign institution.
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I have no idea because I don't understand the word "mooch"
 
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RabidMongoose

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
are you drunk??

seriously, like most people in here I don't have an idea what you are talking about
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No I am not.

I know this is a strange question as it makes almost no sense. I suppose most answers would be no.

Do you believe that Belgium has some sort of inherent right to use or 'mooch' off of the US military? I would assume that you would say no, just like the US has no inherent RIGHT to 'mooch' off of any other military or foreign institution.
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I have no idea because I don't understand the word "mooch"
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It is kind of like being a 'leech'.

I guess the question could be worded like 'Does countryX have the inherent RIGHT to take advantage and use without payment/(basically begging) another country's institutions if there is trade involved with the two.'
 
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