Dodge resurrects Hemi engine; powerplant could make it to rear-wheel drive cars

[NFS4]

Woot!

http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carnews&loc_code=index&content_code=08671403

 

[punkrawket]

they are still the avenger/stealth/stratus/intrepid/whatever... but rear-wheel..... not sure its a "great" improvement

i guess i'm just thinking ..... eh... still a dodge

 

[NFS4]

<< they are still the avenger/stealth/stratus/intrepid/whatever... but rear-wheel..... not sure its a "great" improvement

i guess i'm just thinking ..... eh... still a dodge >>


Ummm, NO! We are talking vehicles like the Chrysler 300 Hemi C and the Dodge Charger

 

[geno]

<< i guess i'm just thinking ..... eh... still a dodge >>


Ok, someone who cares too much about brand names....thanks for the warning so I know enough to ignore you in the future since your opinions apparently aren't worth much.

Anyways, go Chrysler/Dodge! They've made some big strides to be innovative in the past couple of decades, I hope their success continues

 

[Ornery]

This is great news! Maybe I should shut my PC down and go to bed now, so I can end the day on a good note!

Thanks!

 

[Tominator]

What is it with the word 'Hemi?' Can you even explain the term? The history? I doubt it....

 

[Squisher]

I want one in a Dakota!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[geno]

<< What is it with the word 'Hemi?' Can you even explain the term? The history? I doubt it.... >>


True, its mostly a buzzword, since the idea has been duplicated now. But anyways, I hope that post wasn't a challenge to me since I can fufill what you've asked

 

[TonyG]

Hehe, I sure as heck wouldn't mind one of the Hemi Darts, but very few were ever produced Each one was hand built.

 

[Ornery]

Before I go searching for the info, I'm going to take a stab at it from my cob-web riddled memory... The pistons have a dome shape which yielded more compression. The plug was at or near the center for a better detonation. That's about all I remember. Now I search...

 

[NFS4]

<< What is it with the word 'Hemi?' Can you even explain the term? The history? I doubt it.... >>


It has some to do with hemispherical combustion chambers or something like that...the name "Hemi" actually stands for something and is not merely just a buzzword.

 

[Perknose]

<< Dodge's new Hemi Magnum V-8 revives one of the most cherished chapters in Chrysler history. From the late 1950s to the early 1970s, Hemi-powered Dodges, Plymouths and Chryslers devoured the competition on racetracks. >>

The article there seems a little misleading to me. The hemi-head V-8 came out around 1951, with the advent of Chryler Corp.'s "modern" V-8.

In a cost cutting move, the block changed over to traditional wedge heads in 1959. There was absolutely NO Chrysler hemi until, 1964, when the competition 426 for Plymouth and Dodge (but NOT Chrysler) sported a revived hemi head. A street version became available in 1966, and was phased out again in 1971. ALL 413's and 440's were exclusively wedge heads, as were all the 318's, 343's, 360's and 383's.

ALL of the engine iterations mentioned above, including the new for 2002 or 03 or 04 Hemi Magnum are based on the same basic block of the 1951 design, by which I mean that the new Hemi Magnum is not a "clean sheet" design. This is analagous to the fact that all "small block" Chevy V-8's, from the 256 cube of 1955 through the current Corvette LT-1, are also all the same basic block, though hardly the same engine.

Btw, both my Datsun (Nissan) 510's from back in the day sported engines, albeit 4 cylinder, with hemispherical combustion chambers.

 

[Ornery]

Oh, this site is a riot: Mr. HEMI's -- What is a HEMI ? . . .

 

[Tominator]

<< It has some to do with hemispherical combustion chambers or something like that...the name "Hemi" actually stands for something and is not merely just a buzzword. >>



But it is indeed a 'buzzword!' It means very little in modern engine design.

 

[geno]

NFS, what I meant by buzzword is that it isn't exclusive to Chrysler engines. Fords 302s used to have Hemi combustion chambers, but they never advertised it as such, ya know? So it's not like the HEMI is the one and only....blah forget it

 

[cavemanmoron]

wow cool idea put a Rear wheel drive together Mopar!!

 

[trmiv]

If they put that engine in the Dakota R/T, I'm all over it. Damn that would be one quick truck. I want one now with the current Magnum V8, but I would wait for the Hemi if they are putting it in there.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

The Dakota R/T will be getting a 4.7 HO, not the 5.7 Hemi (already been discussed on a Dodge Dakota messageboard to death). The 4.7 HO is slated to pump out about 270HP, and is lighter and higher reving than the current 360 (260HP).

But man, would a Hemi Dak be fun (w/ a T-56 please!)

 

[trmiv]

<< The Dakota R/T will be getting a 4.7 HO, not the 5.7 Hemi (already been discussed on a Dodge Dakota messageboard to death). The 4.7 HO is slated to pump out about 270HP, and is lighter and higher reving than the current 360 (260HP).

But man, would a Hemi Dak be fun (w/ a T-56 please!) >>




Screw that!! That is weak. I want the new 5.7 Hemi in the Dakota dammit!!

 

[iamwiz82]

<< ALL of the engine iterations mentioned above, including the new for 2002 or 03 or 04 Hemi Magnum are based on the same basic block of the 1951 design, by which I mean that the new Hemi Magnum is not a "clean sheet" design. This is analagous to the fact that all "small block" Chevy V-8's, from the 256 cube of 1955 through the current Corvette LT-1, are also all the same basic block, though hardly the same engine. >>



True, but i will note that i think your dates are off. The A block came out in 1956, not 1951. The current 5.2(318) and 5.9(360) both are derivitives of the LA series block, which was born after the A series. The viper engine is actually part of the LA block family too.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

The word "hemi" has been misused by most people since it came into being. The Chrysler 426 "Hemi" was/is a complete monster motor with huge gobs of horsepower and torque, but the fact is that the hemispherical combustion chamber heads were not the sole reason for the engines success. It was just one of those almost magical motors where they got everything right, so the output was exceptionally high. There have been other motors with heads of almost identical design that were complete pigs. Why is the Ford 427 Cobra Jet so highly prized while the 428 Cobra Jet, with a very similar design, produced far less power? Why do people drool over the Chevy 327/350HP while the 350 is considered just a basic, run-of-the-mill motor? The fact that Chrysler is resurrecting the "hemi" is meaningless unless they copy the original 426 design exactly. A rose by any other name might smell as sweet, but an engine with the same name won't run as fast if it's built differently.

 

[rgwalt]

I say bring back the Wankle.

Ryan

 

[LAUST]

K Hemi is cool and all but howbout bringing back the real power.... give me a Wedge I'd take a 440 6-pack with indy heads anyday over a 426.... tho I wouldn't turn down a 426/526

 

[Demon-Xanth]

The first Hemi was a 390 from the '50s iirc. I seem to remember Don Garlits using it. The original's problems were that it was big and heavy. The 426 was a completely different monster.

But what makes a Hemi a hemi is the opposed valves and hemispherical combustion chamber. If it was just the combustion chamber the 4.7 would be a hemi. Also, I seem to remember Ford making a hemi of thier own.

And what makes the 327 special vs. the 350 was that the borexstroke of the 327 made it higher revving and was pretty much solely used as a HO engine where as the 350 was used in damn near everything.

 

[LAUST]

<< The first Hemi was a 390 from the '50s iirc. I seem to remember Don Garlits using it. The original's problems were that it was big and heavy. The 426 was a completely different monster.

But what makes a Hemi a hemi is the opposed valves and hemispherical combustion chamber. If it was just the combustion chamber the 4.7 would be a hemi. Also, I seem to remember Ford making a hemi of thier own. >>


Hemi Boss.... one of my favoriet and most unknown classic stangs of all,

Maybe if they put it in Gone in 60 seconds 2 all the kiddies whould know what it was.