Doctors in Spain find the answer to Africas problems.

Specop 007

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Of COURSE! This whole time the problem with Africa was infertility!! Who would have thought! Its a good thing the Spanish are here to show us the error of our ways. Its not money, aid packages, food or condoms thats needed in Africa. Its infertility procedures!!

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$200 in-vitro? Docs to offer procedure in Africa
1 in 3 women are unable to have children, often ostracized, officials say

BARCELONA, Spain - Doctors are getting ready to introduce a cheap in-vitro fertilization procedure across Africa, where women often are ostracized as witches or social outcasts if they cannot have children, officials said Monday.

Millions of dollars go into family planning projects and condom distribution to prevent pregnancies in Africa, but experts said that more than 30 percent of women on the continent are unable to have children. An estimated 80 million people in developing countries are infertile worldwide.

"Infertility is taboo in Africa," said Willem Ombelet, head of a task force at the European Society of Human Reproduction and Embryology looking into infertility in developing countries. "Nobody has paid attention to this issue, but it is a huge problem and we need to do something."

At a media briefing at the society's annual conference in Barcelona, Ombelet said that he and colleagues were deciding in which countries to test the new procedure.

A small number of women already have been treated in Khartoum, Sudan, and other projects are expected to start soon in South Africa and Tanzania.

Lower cost, but also lower success rate
The cheap version of IVF costs less than $200. Standard IVF treatments in the West cost up to $10,000.

Instead of using expensive lab equipment and medicines, experts said cheaper options could also work. For instance, rather than using an expensive incubator to create an embryo, Ombelet said that a water bath could be used in Africa.

Less expensive medicines also would effectively stimulate women's ovaries to produce more eggs, and costs could be further cut by using cheaper needles and catheters.

But because fewer eggs would be produced by using the cheaper drugs, the success rate would also be lower. In developed countries, IVF is usually successful in about 20 percent of cases. But in Africa, Ombelet estimates it would probably be about 15 percent.

The inexpensive procedure has been used on cows and a small number of women. Researchers in the United States are working on developing an even cheaper IVF procedure that might be more effective.

Despite dozens of other health priorities ? from AIDS to pneumonia to malaria ? experts said it was worthwhile to introduce a cheap version of IVF.

Some women labeled as witches
In Africa, where infertility is more common than in the West, women often suffer the problem after complications from unsafe deliveries, abortions or infections.

"The cost of being infertile in Africa is much greater than in the West," said Oluwole Akande, an emeritus professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Ibadan, Nigeria. Akande acknowledged the price of the procedure would still be available only to Africa's upper and middle classes.

He said that in many parts of Africa women who are unable to have children become social outcasts, are labelled as witches, and in extreme cases, are even driven to suicide.

Sembuya Rita, an infertility activist from Uganda, said it was essential for public health officials to address the issue. "It's a fundamental right for every person to have a child," she said.

Rita said that infertile women often were economically disadvantaged as their husbands left them for other women and were cut out of family inheritances.

Experts said that even if millions of women were treated with low-cost IVF, it would only result in a one to two percent boost in the overall population.

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aka1nas

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FWIW, I'd imagine(maybe hope is a better word) that something like this might encourage more women in these countries to delay having children until later in life and maybe get an education instead.
 

brxndxn

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All I know is the more we try to help them, the more we ultimately hurt them.. The best thing for them is to leave them the fuck alone.

They're human beings - they can handle themselves.

IMO, it does scare me how much certain cultures seem to procreate. The Earth is full, imo.
 

NaughtyGeek

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So, let's take a population under severe economic and social woe and help them have more babies? What dingbat thought this was a good idea in any way shape or form? It amuses me to no end seeing how dumb the human population as a whole can really be some times. A person is smart, people are dumb frightened animals.
 

Foxery

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Yes. There clearly need to be more babies to share in the joys of starvation, civil wars, and AIDS. Maybe the Spaniards miss the glory days of the 1600s!

I think my favorite part of the article, though, is that they lump the entire continent together into one group of people who surely must have the same worries, desires, and beliefs. It's like the world map says, "Here there be black people!"
 

Double Trouble

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Oy vey, of all the things that Africa needs desperately, this is not even on the top 1,000,000,000,000. You gotta be kidding me.....
 

sandorski

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If it's not good enough for Africa, then it's not good enough for Europe/America. The guy(s) found a cheap way to deliver Fertility, that's good, but for us to sit here and say Africa has too many babies already is rather Imperialist.
 

Vic

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The OP is right. We should just drop nukes.

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Originally posted by: sandorski
If it's not good enough for Africa, then it's not good enough for Europe/America. The guy(s) found a cheap way to deliver Fertility, that's good, but for us to sit here and say Africa has too many babies already is rather Imperialist.

if I said India had too many babies, then would I be Imperialist?
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: sandorski
If it's not good enough for Africa, then it's not good enough for Europe/America. The guy(s) found a cheap way to deliver Fertility, that's good, but for us to sit here and say Africa has too many babies already is rather Imperialist.

if I said India had too many babies, then would I be Imperialist?

Possibly.
 

PokerGuy

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Originally posted by: sandorski
If it's not good enough for Africa, then it's not good enough for Europe/America. The guy(s) found a cheap way to deliver Fertility, that's good, but for us to sit here and say Africa has too many babies already is rather Imperialist.

How can you even compare the two situations? It has nothing to do with imperialism and everything to do with logic. As long as they can't possibly provide for the people they do have, introducing technology to add new people hardly makes sense.

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Originally posted by: sandorski
If it's not good enough for Africa, then it's not good enough for Europe/America. The guy(s) found a cheap way to deliver Fertility, that's good, but for us to sit here and say Africa has too many babies already is rather Imperialist.

How can you even compare the two situations? It has nothing to do with imperialism and everything to do with logic. As long as they can't possibly provide for the people they do have, introducing technology to add new people hardly makes sense.

One of the reasons they have such a high birthrate is to ensure survival. Times of Famine are not constant, but do occur fairly regularly. However, between Famines they re-populate.

What is Imperialist is for us to declare what they should do. That's their choice, not ours.