Doctor Who S06E07 [SPOILERS POSSIBLE]

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So that's who River Song is!!!

What did you think of the Episode?
 

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How far ahead are you in the UK?

We had a week off, and tonight they're showing the second episode of the duplicates/clones.
 

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How far ahead are you in the UK?

We had a week off, and tonight they're showing the second episode of the duplicates/clones.

That sucks. That was the episode they showed over here last week, this weeks one was awesome.

Why did they have a week off? Was there a holiday or something?
 

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Spoilers aren't hidden when you hover a thread for quick-view. Thanks for spoiling it for me, jackass.
 

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That sucks. That was the episode they showed over here last week, this weeks one was awesome.

Why did they have a week off? Was there a holiday or something?

No idea. May have been because it was Memorial Day weekend in the US of A, and Canada had to follow the lead of their massa.

Oh well, at least we don't have to wait months.
 

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Spoilers aren't hidden when you hover a thread for quick-view. Thanks for spoiling it for me, jackass.

If only I had put [SPOILERS POSSIBLE] In the title... Or if I had not included any spoiler information about who River Song is, if you were a proper fan, you'd know this was the week we found out, it was on Confidential last week

Jackass.

No idea. May have been because it was Memorial Day weekend in the US of A, and Canada had to follow the lead of their massa.

Oh well, at least we don't have to wait months.

True enough, after this next episode you will have to wait months though :( It's back "in the Autumn"
 

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True enough, after this next episode you will have to wait months though :( It's back "in the Autumn"

Holy shit. Just saw, what's apparently, last week's episode. Wow on the end and can't wait for the mid-season finale.
 

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It's good. Download it.

Sigh, I'll probably wait.

My guess is that it's been uploaded to some 'tube already. I watched the entire 'Life on Mars' season 2 series online (streaming) because it took them a year to get it over here.
 

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Don't read spoiler below before watching this episode.

I just watched S05E03
the first time Amy meets River Song, and River Song didn't seem to be amazed to meet her mother...?
 
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Don't read spoiler below before watching this episode.

I just watched S05E03
the first time Amy meets River Song, and River Song didn't seem to be amazed to meet her mother...?

I was thinking back to that too after I saw the mid-season break episode. Hmm... Anyway, it was pretty crazy to see the ending, but now that brings up questions,
since we see Amy's daughter regenerating at the end of the second episode this season, but then Silence in the Library where River dies, she can't?
 

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I was thinking back to that too after I saw the mid-season break episode. Hmm... Anyway, it was pretty crazy to see the ending, but now that brings up questions,
since we see Amy's daughter regenerating at the end of the second episode this season, but then Silence in the Library where River dies, she can't?

It could be due to her literally being eaten alive by the Vashta naradu (no idea on sp) so that she couldn't regenerate as she didn't have a body anymore.

I also have a question about episode 6
Did anyone else catch that Amy told the Doctor that she saw him die? She admitted to seeing it happen when she thought she was talking to the Flesh Doctor. Also at the end of the episode the Doctor has a brief convo with his ganger.

Ganger: "My death arrives I suppose"
Dr: "But this one we're not invited to"

So it would seem that he knows that Amy saw him die and that he/they were invited to it, I wonder if this will cause him to attempt to change events.
 
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I was thinking back to that too after I saw the mid-season break episode. Hmm... Anyway, it was pretty crazy to see the ending, but now that brings up questions,
since we see Amy's daughter regenerating at the end of the second episode this season, but then Silence in the Library where River dies, she can't?

If you ask me
as time lords have a limited number of regenerations (12 if memory serves) then I think that River Song will have an even more limited number of regenerations. Meaning maybe she can do it once or twice, then she dies in the library.

It could be due to her literally being eaten alive by the Vashta naradu (no idea on sp) so that she couldn't regenerate as she didn't have a body anymore.

I also have a question about episode 6
Did anyone else catch that Amy told the Doctor that she saw him die? She admitted to seeing it happen when she thought she was talking to the Flesh Doctor. Also at the end of the episode the Doctor has a brief convo with his ganger.

Ganger: "My death arrives I suppose"
Dr: "But this one we're not invited to"

So it would seem that he knows that Amy saw him die and that he/they were invited to it, I wonder if this will cause him to attempt to change events.

Yeah I noticed that, I wonder how they are going to develop it.
 
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It could be due to her literally being eaten alive by the Vashta naradu (no idea on sp) so that she couldn't regenerate as she didn't have a body anymore.

I also have a question about episode 6
Did anyone else catch that Amy told the Doctor that she saw him die? She admitted to seeing it happen when she thought she was talking to the Flesh Doctor. Also at the end of the episode the Doctor has a brief convo with his ganger.

Ganger: "My death arrives I suppose"
Dr: "But this one we're not invited to"

So it would seem that he knows that Amy saw him die and that he/they were invited to it, I wonder if this will cause him to attempt to change events.

[Edit]gorobei points out how
she really died in the library.
That season seems so long ago.
Maybe it was a flesh doctor they all saw die or will see die...
Stupid summer; I don't want to wait till the fall to see how this ends.
 
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It could be due to her literally being eaten alive by the Vashta naradu (no idea on sp) so that she couldn't regenerate as she didn't have a body anymore.

I also have a question about episode 6
Did anyone else catch that Amy told the Doctor that she saw him die? She admitted to seeing it happen when she thought she was talking to the Flesh Doctor. Also at the end of the episode the Doctor has a brief convo with his ganger.

Ganger: "My death arrives I suppose"
Dr: "But this one we're not invited to"

So it would seem that he knows that Amy saw him die and that he/they were invited to it, I wonder if this will cause him to attempt to change events.

river wasnt eaten by the vashta nerada, she took the doctor's place in the brainfrying juryrig to fix the computer. though it was implied that the voltage would incinerate any body, so no remains.

the doctor knows about the invite death, but the easy obvious solution is to have the ganger be the one who dies at the utah lake. after all, since when does the real doctor drive a red station wagon.

anyone catch the line between river and rory? "it's my birthday." lots of misdirects. I half expected the good man she kills to be rory given the build up of the cold open.
 

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river wasnt eaten by the vashta nerada, she took the doctor's place in the brainfrying juryrig to fix the computer. though it was implied that the voltage would incinerate any body, so no remains.

the doctor knows about the invite death, but the easy obvious solution is to have the ganger be the one who dies at the utah lake. after all, since when does the real doctor drive a red station wagon.

anyone catch the line between river and rory? "it's my birthday." lots of misdirects. I half expected the good man she kills to be rory given the build up of the cold open.

I think it was the FBI guy who drove the red station wagon.
 

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I think it was the FBI guy who drove the red station wagon.

nope, canton the older was driving a brand new tan ford pickup truck. doctor was laying on the hood of a 50's two tone station wagon with the stetson.
 

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we need more things inside spoilers

regarding the library episodes, from what i can tell, if the doctor dies too fast he can not regenerate in time (refer to the "turn left" episode). they sort of implied this would be what would happen if he hooked his mind up to the hard drive. so likewise, riversong wouldn't be able to as well.

as far as the regenerations, I thought it was a trick learned by the timelords during their training inside their timelord academy, not all galifreyans can regenerate. And 12 is the number before they would need to be "recharged" with more regenerations.

i kid about more things inside spoilers
 

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the theory of the dying doctor being a "flesh" would explain why there was no other tardis within sight. But I hope there's more of a twist than that and it isn't that simple.
 

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we need more things inside spoilers

regarding the library episodes, from what i can tell, if the doctor dies too fast he can not regenerate in time (refer to the "turn left" episode). they sort of implied this would be what would happen if he hooked his mind up to the hard drive. so likewise, riversong wouldn't be able to as well.

as far as the regenerations, I thought it was a trick learned by the timelords during their training inside their timelord academy, not all galifreyans can regenerate. And 12 is the number before they would need to be "recharged" with more regenerations.

i kid about more things inside spoilers

Very true, but that's the point there are no more timelords to recharge the doctor, like the master was recharged, they mentioned that he was brought back for the war sometime in series 4 I think.
 
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the theory of the dying doctor being a "flesh" would explain why there was no other tardis within sight. But I hope there's more of a twist than that and it isn't that simple.

I doubt it is that simple.
I imagine the rest of the season will build up to that point. A flesh doctor is certainly an explanation, but it still leaves a lot of questions at the moment that would need answering.
 

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Very true, but that's the point there are no more timelords to recharge the doctor, like the master was recharged, they mentioned that he was brought back for the war sometime in series 4 I think.

do you know of any explanation on how the recharging happens?