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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: paulxcook
The baby should've just stabbed the dog in the face.
On a more serious note, I have two mastiffs, and stories like this make me nervous about having kids. I of course won't just let the baby be by itself around the dogs, but when they grow older, 4+, and start playing more by themselves, I just hope I don't have to put either of them down if/when one of them snaps it's jaws at one of my kids. I love my dogs, but my kids will absolutely have to come first.
you allready have kids
they just happen to be dogs
amazed you didnt notice this![]()
Originally posted by: destrekor
I've known both a lab-rott mix, and a lab-pitt mix, and both are extremely loving and friendly (to friendly people). Very trustworthy dogs, but as you did right, precautions have to be taken with any dog. And I'm sure your dog has been extremely loyal, since it sounds as if you've had her maybe 8+ years and didn't mention any violent acts. Lab mixes, and purebred labs, are pretty much my favorite dog in the world, and if you mix it with rott, pitt, or doberman, it'll almost always turn out to be one of the most loyal and faithful animals man could be graced by. Highly recommend a lab mix, or a general mutt, as they tend to be by far the easiest animals to train, and will still protect you, specially if they carry more lab in them and get quite a heft built up. They can pack quite a bit of power, and a sleeker lab can be fast as hell.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
I've known both a lab-rott mix, and a lab-pitt mix, and both are extremely loving and friendly (to friendly people). Very trustworthy dogs, but as you did right, precautions have to be taken with any dog. And I'm sure your dog has been extremely loyal, since it sounds as if you've had her maybe 8+ years and didn't mention any violent acts. Lab mixes, and purebred labs, are pretty much my favorite dog in the world, and if you mix it with rott, pitt, or doberman, it'll almost always turn out to be one of the most loyal and faithful animals man could be graced by. Highly recommend a lab mix, or a general mutt, as they tend to be by far the easiest animals to train, and will still protect you, specially if they carry more lab in them and get quite a heft built up. They can pack quite a bit of power, and a sleeker lab can be fast as hell.
Yes, she's a pound hound. We rescued her when she was 4 months old from our local animal shelter...I think that was almost 10 years ago. Still playful to this day though.
She's very loyal and gentle but she packs a mean bark when the doorbell rings.![]()
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
I've known both a lab-rott mix, and a lab-pitt mix, and both are extremely loving and friendly (to friendly people). Very trustworthy dogs, but as you did right, precautions have to be taken with any dog. And I'm sure your dog has been extremely loyal, since it sounds as if you've had her maybe 8+ years and didn't mention any violent acts. Lab mixes, and purebred labs, are pretty much my favorite dog in the world, and if you mix it with rott, pitt, or doberman, it'll almost always turn out to be one of the most loyal and faithful animals man could be graced by. Highly recommend a lab mix, or a general mutt, as they tend to be by far the easiest animals to train, and will still protect you, specially if they carry more lab in them and get quite a heft built up. They can pack quite a bit of power, and a sleeker lab can be fast as hell.
Yes, she's a pound hound. We rescued her when she was 4 months old from our local animal shelter...I think that was almost 10 years ago. Still playful to this day though.
She's very loyal and gentle but she packs a mean bark when the doorbell rings.![]()
Originally posted by: RKS
We have a medium sized dog (75 lbs) that is a few months older than my kids. Right from when we first got him I messed with his food, toys, paws, ears, tail, and anything else that might cause an over-reaction when babies invaded his world.
The dog is almost 5 and has been maulded by my boys and never reacted aggressively.
Originally posted by: child of wonder
The dog will be Beagle size, at best, but most likely a tiny dog.
Originally posted by: Codewiz
First off, most of the people in this thread know dick about dogs obviously.....
Dogs in general do not view babies like they view adults. They are more likely to view babies as prey until they learn otherwise.
Second, any responsible owner should raise the animal to not be sensitive with ANY part of their body. I own two bulldog mixes. Any child could come up and pull my males dog's penis and he will not bite. Much less his paws. As puppies, I would flip my dogs over and play with their paws and any part of their body to ensure they do not have any sensitivity to such things.
THIRD, no baby should be left with a dog when there is no person that can control the dog. There is no way the baby should have been around the dog where this could happen. End of story.
And lastly, this might not have been vicious at all. When a baby cries, mother dogs will go over and pick the dog up to try and comfort it. And one attack doesn't mean it is more likely to attack. It is just as likely as it was previously.
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Judgement
Originally posted by: SampSon
Put the dog down.
I guess this is a push for a flame war? :
How can you honestly say it was the dog's fault?? who leaves an infant in complete access of doberman who is adjusting to a new baby and the dog is allowed free access to the area where the baby is???
This is a horrible act, but killing the dog wont change anything and it isn't the dog's fault. I've had dogs all my life and for 75% of them touching their paws is a no-go. A baby could never know that, but a parent/owner should... not to mention the dog shouldn't have access to the baby without a human around.
The dog killed an 8 month old infant. The dog should be put down. The dog doesn't need to be psycho analyzed or studied nor does it need to be reintroduced into a family setting where touching its paw will set it into a fit of murderous rage. Who cares if it's the "dogs fault" or not. It's an animal, don't personify a dogs actions in an attempt to justify its attack.
If it was my dog and it did that, I would have killed it myself. If it was your dog and it did that, I would have killed it myself.
What do you expect? Take the dog back in, feed it a treat, pet it and just go on with life?
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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
I've known both a lab-rott mix, and a lab-pitt mix, and both are extremely loving and friendly (to friendly people). Very trustworthy dogs, but as you did right, precautions have to be taken with any dog. And I'm sure your dog has been extremely loyal, since it sounds as if you've had her maybe 8+ years and didn't mention any violent acts. Lab mixes, and purebred labs, are pretty much my favorite dog in the world, and if you mix it with rott, pitt, or doberman, it'll almost always turn out to be one of the most loyal and faithful animals man could be graced by. Highly recommend a lab mix, or a general mutt, as they tend to be by far the easiest animals to train, and will still protect you, specially if they carry more lab in them and get quite a heft built up. They can pack quite a bit of power, and a sleeker lab can be fast as hell.
Yes, she's a pound hound. We rescued her when she was 4 months old from our local animal shelter...I think that was almost 10 years ago. Still playful to this day though.
She's very loyal and gentle but she packs a mean bark when the doorbell rings.![]()
may she live long
our animal shelter mutt lived to be 17, very loyal and playful till the day she died (we put her down though because she was in a lot of pain). Her heart was still kickin and gave her energy, but her bones and kidneys were failing her, so she got slow and mopey. But she still had spurts where her body didn't hurt, and she'd run around the garage and play. Hell, I think she was 15 or 16 when she jumped out of the van window and scraped her chin (it was parked). It was amusing when we realized she didn't really hurt herself.
she was the pure definition of a shelter mutt/pound hound, and was an amazing animal. Acted very vicious toward the mail lady and people at the door or fence, but was very loving.
Our lab puppy mix, is smaller and equally as loving (maybe even more so? I don't remember my last dog at a young age), but has a lot more sass to her. Kind of comical but shows she still has some quite some training left. Her bark though, doesn't match her size. If she wants to sound big, she can easily.
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Ban Dobermans! :|
ban humans!
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
I've known both a lab-rott mix, and a lab-pitt mix, and both are extremely loving and friendly (to friendly people). Very trustworthy dogs, but as you did right, precautions have to be taken with any dog. And I'm sure your dog has been extremely loyal, since it sounds as if you've had her maybe 8+ years and didn't mention any violent acts. Lab mixes, and purebred labs, are pretty much my favorite dog in the world, and if you mix it with rott, pitt, or doberman, it'll almost always turn out to be one of the most loyal and faithful animals man could be graced by. Highly recommend a lab mix, or a general mutt, as they tend to be by far the easiest animals to train, and will still protect you, specially if they carry more lab in them and get quite a heft built up. They can pack quite a bit of power, and a sleeker lab can be fast as hell.
Yes, she's a pound hound. We rescued her when she was 4 months old from our local animal shelter...I think that was almost 10 years ago. Still playful to this day though.
She's very loyal and gentle but she packs a mean bark when the doorbell rings.![]()
may she live long
our animal shelter mutt lived to be 17, very loyal and playful till the day she died (we put her down though because she was in a lot of pain). Her heart was still kickin and gave her energy, but her bones and kidneys were failing her, so she got slow and mopey. But she still had spurts where her body didn't hurt, and she'd run around the garage and play. Hell, I think she was 15 or 16 when she jumped out of the van window and scraped her chin (it was parked). It was amusing when we realized she didn't really hurt herself.
she was the pure definition of a shelter mutt/pound hound, and was an amazing animal. Acted very vicious toward the mail lady and people at the door or fence, but was very loving.
Our lab puppy mix, is smaller and equally as loving (maybe even more so? I don't remember my last dog at a young age), but has a lot more sass to her. Kind of comical but shows she still has some quite some training left. Her bark though, doesn't match her size. If she wants to sound big, she can easily.
Not a great pic but here's my loyal mutt.![]()
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Ban Dobermans! :|
ban humans!
the sarcasm is weak with this one.
(I was the only one a year ago defending pit bulls in one of those pit bull threads--but now there are more, TG)
Originally posted by: Codewiz
First off, most of the people in this thread know dick about dogs obviously.....
Dogs in general do not view babies like they view adults. They are more likely to view babies as prey until they learn otherwise.
Second, any responsible owner should raise the animal to not be sensitive with ANY part of their body. I own two bulldog mixes. Any child could come up and pull my males dog's penis and he will not bite. Much less his paws. As puppies, I would flip my dogs over and play with their paws and any part of their body to ensure they do not have any sensitivity to such things.
THIRD, no baby should be left with a dog when there is no person that can control the dog. There is no way the baby should have been around the dog where this could happen. End of story.
And lastly, this might not have been vicious at all. When a baby cries, mother dogs will go over and pick the dog up to try and comfort it. And one attack doesn't mean it is more likely to attack. It is just as likely as it was previously.
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Quick, kill all the Dobermans!!! And get all the pit bulls while you're at it.
One thing I have to mention is that unlike Pit-bulls, Dobermans are bred to be aggressive towards people.
Also although theres no arguing with dog-attack statistics, I've known several docile pit-bulls, but every pure-bred Doberman I've been around (and I used to have a friend who was a breeder) was at least skittish/unpredictable.
The bottom line however is that the fault for this tragedy lies with the parents & any dog regardless of size or temperment should be monitered carefully around infants.
That is pure bullshit. Dobes were orginally bred for protection. They are considered one of the most family friendly dogs. Just because you meet some that were not raised/bred right does not mean all.
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
I've known both a lab-rott mix, and a lab-pitt mix, and both are extremely loving and friendly (to friendly people). Very trustworthy dogs, but as you did right, precautions have to be taken with any dog. And I'm sure your dog has been extremely loyal, since it sounds as if you've had her maybe 8+ years and didn't mention any violent acts. Lab mixes, and purebred labs, are pretty much my favorite dog in the world, and if you mix it with rott, pitt, or doberman, it'll almost always turn out to be one of the most loyal and faithful animals man could be graced by. Highly recommend a lab mix, or a general mutt, as they tend to be by far the easiest animals to train, and will still protect you, specially if they carry more lab in them and get quite a heft built up. They can pack quite a bit of power, and a sleeker lab can be fast as hell.
Yes, she's a pound hound. We rescued her when she was 4 months old from our local animal shelter...I think that was almost 10 years ago. Still playful to this day though.
She's very loyal and gentle but she packs a mean bark when the doorbell rings.![]()
may she live long
our animal shelter mutt lived to be 17, very loyal and playful till the day she died (we put her down though because she was in a lot of pain). Her heart was still kickin and gave her energy, but her bones and kidneys were failing her, so she got slow and mopey. But she still had spurts where her body didn't hurt, and she'd run around the garage and play. Hell, I think she was 15 or 16 when she jumped out of the van window and scraped her chin (it was parked). It was amusing when we realized she didn't really hurt herself.
she was the pure definition of a shelter mutt/pound hound, and was an amazing animal. Acted very vicious toward the mail lady and people at the door or fence, but was very loving.
Our lab puppy mix, is smaller and equally as loving (maybe even more so? I don't remember my last dog at a young age), but has a lot more sass to her. Kind of comical but shows she still has some quite some training left. Her bark though, doesn't match her size. If she wants to sound big, she can easily.
Not a great pic but here's my loyal mutt.![]()
you think she has some rottweiler in her? think? some?
she's most definitely got a few rott characteristics, most notably the head shape has a lot of resemblance to a rott.
rottweiler
here's a pic of our puppy. I didn't take any of her recently, this was over the summer when she was only two or three months old (can't remember when I took the pics): pic
kind of a bad pic, but gives a good idea of her.![]()
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: destrekor
I've known both a lab-rott mix, and a lab-pitt mix, and both are extremely loving and friendly (to friendly people). Very trustworthy dogs, but as you did right, precautions have to be taken with any dog. And I'm sure your dog has been extremely loyal, since it sounds as if you've had her maybe 8+ years and didn't mention any violent acts. Lab mixes, and purebred labs, are pretty much my favorite dog in the world, and if you mix it with rott, pitt, or doberman, it'll almost always turn out to be one of the most loyal and faithful animals man could be graced by. Highly recommend a lab mix, or a general mutt, as they tend to be by far the easiest animals to train, and will still protect you, specially if they carry more lab in them and get quite a heft built up. They can pack quite a bit of power, and a sleeker lab can be fast as hell.
Yes, she's a pound hound. We rescued her when she was 4 months old from our local animal shelter...I think that was almost 10 years ago. Still playful to this day though.
She's very loyal and gentle but she packs a mean bark when the doorbell rings.![]()
may she live long
our animal shelter mutt lived to be 17, very loyal and playful till the day she died (we put her down though because she was in a lot of pain). Her heart was still kickin and gave her energy, but her bones and kidneys were failing her, so she got slow and mopey. But she still had spurts where her body didn't hurt, and she'd run around the garage and play. Hell, I think she was 15 or 16 when she jumped out of the van window and scraped her chin (it was parked). It was amusing when we realized she didn't really hurt herself.
she was the pure definition of a shelter mutt/pound hound, and was an amazing animal. Acted very vicious toward the mail lady and people at the door or fence, but was very loving.
Our lab puppy mix, is smaller and equally as loving (maybe even more so? I don't remember my last dog at a young age), but has a lot more sass to her. Kind of comical but shows she still has some quite some training left. Her bark though, doesn't match her size. If she wants to sound big, she can easily.
Not a great pic but here's my loyal mutt.![]()
you think she has some rottweiler in her? think? some?
she's most definitely got a few rott characteristics, most notably the head shape has a lot of resemblance to a rott.
rottweiler
here's a pic of our puppy. I didn't take any of her recently, this was over the summer when she was only two or three months old (can't remember when I took the pics): pic
kind of a bad pic, but gives a good idea of her.![]()
Cute pup. Be prepared for a couple years of puppyhood though. Ours took about 2+ before she calmed down.
Labs love to dig too and if you get a female be prepared for brown spots on your lawn.