Dobbs to President: Do you take us for fools?
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glenn1
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I think it's as much that the two parties are locked in a game of chicken to see who will blink first on doing something to address the problem, figuring that whomever is seen to act first will take the brunt of hispanic voter wrath in upcoming elections. Whether that's a valid presumption or not is anyone's guess.
Thanks for a well thought out, intellectually stimulating convincing argument.
Lou Dobbs comes from a conservative viewpoint as a financial commentator before he broadened the scope of his broadcast to include the financial and social implications of his topics. It makes sense since the impact of most broad issues is not restricted to one or the other.
As a true conservative, he thinks through his points, he's very clear and articulate in his presentation, and he almost always has good documentation to support his arguments. He's particularly pissed at the blatant stupidity of almost every action the Bushwhackos have taken, from the Iraq to the financial markets to the borders to the blatant corruption in all of Washington, and since the Republicans are currently the majority in control, they are quite correctly the target of his negative commentary.
I'm one liberal who agrees with a lot of what he has to say. :thumbsup:
OrByte
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Finally, a sensible argument! Again, as much as we might WANT to blame illegals they are only doing what our government and businesses allow them to do.
There is a need, and these people come over here to try and fill it. The problem isnt going to go away by eliminating the supply (illegal workers) but by eliminating the demand (businesses willing to hire them and a government that turns a blind eye.)
There is a need, and these people come over here to try and fill it. The problem isnt going to go away by eliminating the supply (illegal workers) but by eliminating the demand (businesses willing to hire them and a government that turns a blind eye.)
HardWarrior
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They're not pets or retards, dude. You don't waltz into another country illegally and not know it.
Do you have anyone more at fault? What part of ILLEGAL don't you understand? Those who employ them, especially large companies, are equally at fault, but as HardWarrior said, they came here knowing they were entering the country illegally.
How else can you explain Kerry getting 56 million votes, or 60% of the people think the economy is bad, or Bush is the reason gas is so high.
I'll tell you why:
A significant percentage of Americans are sheeple, if they heard it on the alphabet news channel, it must be true. IMHO the MSM has huge anti conservative, pro socialist agenda, the Sheeple lap it up not knowing any better. And they will never know any better, because liberals in power will insist on doing the thinking for the sheeple. They control the schools and the curriculum.
We won't be here to see it, but another cival war in this country is inevitable.
Thats cause they spend more time working and living and leave the bitching to the people that populate forums like this all day long and the doing and solving to the talented folks who gravitate towards such vocations naturally
I really hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise, this country really is in shambles... Oh and this "Sheeple," also knows how to spell out 'civil' the correct way.
Lou Dobbs rules. He speaks truth to power and in doing so kicks bush's a$$ every night on his show.
As for bush, yes, he must take us for fools and in doing so proves again what a fool he truly is.
All that aside, here's a little joke that contains some advice bush should definitely follow...
BED TIME STORY
One night George W. Bush is tossing restlessly in his White House bed. He
awakens to see George Washington standing beside him. Bush looks up and
asks, "George, what's the best thing I can do to help the country ?" "Set an
honest and honourable example, just as I did," Washington advises, then
fades away.
The next night, Bush is astir again when he sees the ghost of Thomas
Jefferson moving silently around the bedroom. Bush calls out: "Tom, what is
the best thing I could do to help the country ?" "Respect the Constitution,
as I did," Jefferson advises, and then dims from sight.
The third night sleep still evades Bush. He sees the ghost of FDR hovering
over his bed. Bush lowers his voice and asks, "Franklin, what is the best
thing I could do to help the country ?" In that golden voice of his, FDR
replies, "Help the less fortunate, just as I did," and then he disappears.
Bush still isn't sleeping well the fourth night. He tosses and turns, and
suddenly another figure moves out of the shadows. It's the ghost of Abraham
Lincoln. "Abe," Bush pleads, "what's the best thing I can do right now to
help the country ?"
Lincoln pauses, then replies, "Go see a play."
As for bush, yes, he must take us for fools and in doing so proves again what a fool he truly is.
All that aside, here's a little joke that contains some advice bush should definitely follow...
BED TIME STORY
One night George W. Bush is tossing restlessly in his White House bed. He
awakens to see George Washington standing beside him. Bush looks up and
asks, "George, what's the best thing I can do to help the country ?" "Set an
honest and honourable example, just as I did," Washington advises, then
fades away.
The next night, Bush is astir again when he sees the ghost of Thomas
Jefferson moving silently around the bedroom. Bush calls out: "Tom, what is
the best thing I could do to help the country ?" "Respect the Constitution,
as I did," Jefferson advises, and then dims from sight.
The third night sleep still evades Bush. He sees the ghost of FDR hovering
over his bed. Bush lowers his voice and asks, "Franklin, what is the best
thing I could do to help the country ?" In that golden voice of his, FDR
replies, "Help the less fortunate, just as I did," and then he disappears.
Bush still isn't sleeping well the fourth night. He tosses and turns, and
suddenly another figure moves out of the shadows. It's the ghost of Abraham
Lincoln. "Abe," Bush pleads, "what's the best thing I can do right now to
help the country ?"
Lincoln pauses, then replies, "Go see a play."
Dobbs has at least one good point: we don't need any stinkin' immigration reform. Neither the President, Congress nor the Border Patrol seem very interested in enforcing the laws we currently have.
I have to disagree. We need to reduce the demand AND the supply. The only way to reduce the supply is a fence or a jail sentence if caught trying to cross the border illegally.
We need to give the law more teeth and make it easier to prosecute the people who hire the illegals. Fine the hell out of the company and jail the human resource person who hired the illegal. Would you risk a jail sentence to give an illegal a job?
Fern
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While I generally agree with that sentiment. This case appears to be the opposite. People on both sides of the isle appear to be overwhelmingly at odds with both political parties. How is disagreeing with our government (as is the case here) being "ignorant" ? (can't comment on the word "compacity", never heard it before).
But this whole immigration issue seems the strongest example I can recall in years of just how non-responsive our government is to the will of the people. As a US citizen I find it frustrating & scary.
Fern
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