Do you want to see Ms Palin run for POTUS in 2012

[Pens1566]

Yes/Democrat. Just for the hilarity that would ensue. I'm actually hoping for a Palin/Bachman ticket .....

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
/snip

Thank you for your MSNBC "unbiased analysis", Keith. Moving on to more reasonable and worthwhile folks...

Originally posted by: Mursilis
The media isn't 'state-run', but it's biased and generally unfavorable to the right, granted. However, Palin and Gingrich make it easy.

Who cares if she's polling better? She quit in just her first term, and she's still a vacuous narcissist who will wilt on the national stage.

Winning a single Congressional district is no great feat - plenty of nuts can convince a such a small segment of the population to vote for them. Doing the same on a national scale is different. Gingrich is not a likeable figure to a majority of voters, and has questionable personal ethics. His chances of beating Obama are slim at best.

I still haven't seen you provide a more "realistic" ticket. Are you genuinely interested in who the Republicans will choose for 2012, or are you just participating in the new fad of Conservative Bashing being perpetuated by the left and the state-run media?

I love all of these non-Republicans/non-Conservatives providing us with all of this "advice". The problem with the Republican party isn't that it is too conservative, it's the exact opposite, actually. The problem is that it has gotten away from conservatism and become Democrat-lite. Why would the people choose D-Lite when they can just have the real thing? Democrats would love nothing more than the Republican party to become more "moderate" and "progressive"...it will make things easy for them. That's why liberals are truly afraid of Palin and viciously attack her.

If Palin really was just this incompetent hick from Alaska, why is the state-run media so intent on destroying her? Hint: the majority of the stories and coverage of Palin do not come from Fox News.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
/snip

Thank you for your MSNBC "unbiased analysis", Keith. Moving on to more reasonable and worthwhile folks...

Originally posted by: Mursilis
The media isn't 'state-run', but it's biased and generally unfavorable to the right, granted. However, Palin and Gingrich make it easy.

Who cares if she's polling better? She quit in just her first term, and she's still a vacuous narcissist who will wilt on the national stage.

Winning a single Congressional district is no great feat - plenty of nuts can convince a such a small segment of the population to vote for them. Doing the same on a national scale is different. Gingrich is not a likeable figure to a majority of voters, and has questionable personal ethics. His chances of beating Obama are slim at best.

I still haven't seen you provide a more "realistic" ticket. Are you genuinely interested in who the Republicans will choose for 2012, or are you just participating in the new fad of Conservative Bashing being perpetuated by the left and the state-run media?

I love all of these non-Republicans/non-Conservatives providing us with all of this "advice". The problem with the Republican party isn't that it is too conservative, it's the exact opposite, actually. The problem is that it has gotten away from conservatism and become Democrat-lite. Why would the people choose D-Lite when they can just have the real thing? Democrats would love nothing more than the Republican party to become more "moderate" and "progressive"...it will make things easy for them. That's why liberals are truly afraid of Palin and viciously attack her.

If Palin really was just this incompetent hick from Alaska, why is the state-run media so intent on destroying her? Hint: the majority of the stories and coverage of Palin do not come from Fox News.

Most of the Democrats I know want Ms Palin to run for POTUS. Personally, casual interest, I do not have an oar in what the GOP does.

You might want to cut back on the victimization thing you are doing. I do not think it is working that well with most people.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
/snip

Thank you for your MSNBC "unbiased analysis", Keith. Moving on to more reasonable and worthwhile folks...

Originally posted by: Mursilis
The media isn't 'state-run', but it's biased and generally unfavorable to the right, granted. However, Palin and Gingrich make it easy.

Who cares if she's polling better? She quit in just her first term, and she's still a vacuous narcissist who will wilt on the national stage.

Winning a single Congressional district is no great feat - plenty of nuts can convince a such a small segment of the population to vote for them. Doing the same on a national scale is different. Gingrich is not a likeable figure to a majority of voters, and has questionable personal ethics. His chances of beating Obama are slim at best.

I still haven't seen you provide a more "realistic" ticket. Are you genuinely interested in who the Republicans will choose for 2012, or are you just participating in the new fad of Conservative Bashing being perpetuated by the left and the state-run media?

I love all of these non-Republicans/non-Conservatives providing us with all of this "advice". The problem with the Republican party isn't that it is too conservative, it's the exact opposite, actually. The problem is that it has gotten away from conservatism and become Democrat-lite. Why would the people choose D-Lite when they can just have the real thing? Democrats would love nothing more than the Republican party to become more "moderate" and "progressive"...it will make things easy for them. That's why liberals are truly afraid of Palin and viciously attack her.

If Palin really was just this incompetent hick from Alaska, why is the state-run media so intent on destroying her? Hint: the majority of the stories and coverage of Palin do not come from Fox News.

Most of the Democrats I know want Ms Palin to run for POTUS. Personally, casual interest, I do not have an oar in what the GOP does.

You might want to cut back on the victimization thing you are doing. I do not think it is working that well with most people.

The hypocrisy is delicious.

When Democrats were out of power, they were "poor victims of the evil Republicans"!

Now that the Republicans are out of power, they are "playing the victimization card" and need to STFU.

If you don't care about Palin or the GOP..why did you start a thread about her running for the GOP, and post in lots of Palin/GOP threads?

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
/snip

Thank you for your MSNBC "unbiased analysis", Keith. Moving on to more reasonable and worthwhile folks...

Dismiss what you can't dispute...

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
/snip

Thank you for your MSNBC "unbiased analysis", Keith. Moving on to more reasonable and worthwhile folks...

Dismiss what you can't dispute...

I don't need to "dispute" anything you said, because all you did was unequivocally bash Republicans/Conservatives...all of them, in fact. Gingrich, Palin, Romney, Huckabee, Giuliania...you trashed them all, and they happen to be front-runners for the Republicans. Hmm...no, no bias coming from you at all. :roll:

I will dispute facts...I dismiss vitriolic, biased opinions.

Got it?

Why do liberals who supposedly "have no interest in the GOP/Palin/Republicans/Conservatives" expend so much time and energy attacking/insulting/trashing them?

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
If Palin really was just this incompetent hick from Alaska, why is the state-run media so intent on destroying her? Hint: the majority of the stories and coverage of Palin do not come from Fox News.

What are you talking about? She destroys herself every time she opens her mouth. Did you watch her resignation speech? So much the opposite of McCain's classy concession speech. I honestly couldn't make heads or tails of her nonsensical rambling. It's kind of ironic that she seeks out attention from the media every chance she gets (see Letterman) if she honestly believes that they're all out to get her.

I understand you really don't like Obama but out of the tens of millions of Republicans in this country, is she the best there is?

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
I still haven't seen you provide a more "realistic" ticket. Are you genuinely interested in who the Republicans will choose for 2012, or are you just participating in the new fad of Conservative Bashing being perpetuated by the left and the state-run media?

Romney's got a prayer, and maybe Pawlenty, although I don't know much about him. As for the rest of the '12 field, I don't worry too much about it. I have neither the money nor the power to cast much influence in the '12 race, so I'll just watch it as it unfolds and see who ends up on the primary ballot in my state. But my vote definitely won't be for Palin as the GOP nominee.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
If Palin really was just this incompetent hick from Alaska, why is the state-run media so intent on destroying her? Hint: the majority of the stories and coverage of Palin do not come from Fox News.

What are you talking about? She destroys herself every time she opens her mouth. Did you watch her resignation speech? So much the opposite of McCain's classy concession speech. I honestly couldn't make heads or tails of her nonsensical rambling. It's kind of ironic that she seeks out attention from the media every chance she gets (see Letterman) if she honestly believes that they're all out to get her.

I understand you really don't like Obama but out of the tens of millions of Republicans in this country, is she the best there is?

:laugh:

Thank you for proving my point. If she "destroys herself every time she opens her mouth", why did you feel the urgent need to bash her again?

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke

Originally posted by: bamacre
It's sad that people voted yes because they want the "entertainment" value. No wonder DC is a circus, you guys pay to see the clowns.

And Democrats who voted yes because you think it'd be easier for Obama to win, well, that's pretty damn pathetic, too. God forbid you have the chance to vote for someone who won't trample on civil liberties, someone who would actually end our misadventures overseas. Someone who not only understands that the drug war isn't working, but also has the integrity to say so. Someone who forces the Democrats to be better than they are now, not someone who gives them room to be even worse.

Whys it sad, we are not all American here.

I'm not paying for it and I want my circus dammit :|

Haha! That's exactly why I voted yes as well.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
/snip

Thank you for your MSNBC "unbiased analysis", Keith. Moving on to more reasonable and worthwhile folks...

Dismiss what you can't dispute...

I don't need to "dispute" anything you said, because all you did was unequivocally bash Republicans/Conservatives...all of them, in fact. Gingrich, Palin, Romney, Huckabee, Giuliania...you trashed them all, and they happen to be front-runners for the Republicans. Hmm...no, no bias coming from you at all. :roll:

I will dispute facts...I dismiss vitriolic, biased opinions.

Got it?

Why do liberals who supposedly "have no interest in the GOP/Palin/Republicans/Conservatives" expend so much time and energy attacking/insulting/trashing them?

Resurrect Barry Goldwater and I'd vote Republican again in a heartbeat. Keep pushing the faux conservatives who dominate today's Republican party and I'll keep slapping the losers down.
Governor Romney and Mayor Giuliani are Northeastern liberal Republicans who turned "conservative" when they developed presidential aspirations; Governor Huckabee is an unabashed theocrat; Speaker Gingrich is very much the hypocrite who bashed President Clinton's sexual misbehavior in the midst of his own adultery; Governor Palin is a talented charismatic politician who unfortunately appears entirely free of cogent thought in all but a very few of her interviews. Hardly "vitriolic, biased opinions".
Finally, when have I ever claimed disinterest in Republicans or Conservatives?

 

[jman19]

Anyone who is saying "yes" to this must be a Democrat.

 

[JSt0rm]

1. Yes
2. Democrat

why? For the lulz

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: WelshBloke

Originally posted by: bamacre
It's sad that people voted yes because they want the "entertainment" value. No wonder DC is a circus, you guys pay to see the clowns.

And Democrats who voted yes because you think it'd be easier for Obama to win, well, that's pretty damn pathetic, too. God forbid you have the chance to vote for someone who won't trample on civil liberties, someone who would actually end our misadventures overseas. Someone who not only understands that the drug war isn't working, but also has the integrity to say so. Someone who forces the Democrats to be better than they are now, not someone who gives them room to be even worse.

Whys it sad, we are not all American here.

I'm not paying for it and I want my circus dammit :|

Haha! That's exactly why I voted yes as well.

We'll all remember that the next time other countries tell us to mind our own business.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: retrospooty
I'd like to see her run - but only becayuse it wil garantee the GOP's defeat. =)

This = true, though I come from the other side of the fence so to speak.

I'm a right-leaning libertarian and I generally do not want to see her run because it's a guaranteed lose.

Not that I'd want the GOP to have a winning party necessarily, because I don't think they'd put up a candidate I'd support, but their brand of bad government is more to my preference than the dem brand of bad government.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
If Palin really was just this incompetent hick from Alaska, why is the state-run media so intent on destroying her? Hint: the majority of the stories and coverage of Palin do not come from Fox News.

What are you talking about? She destroys herself every time she opens her mouth. Did you watch her resignation speech? So much the opposite of McCain's classy concession speech. I honestly couldn't make heads or tails of her nonsensical rambling. It's kind of ironic that she seeks out attention from the media every chance she gets (see Letterman) if she honestly believes that they're all out to get her.

I understand you really don't like Obama but out of the tens of millions of Republicans in this country, is she the best there is?

:laugh:

Thank you for proving my point. If she "destroys herself every time she opens her mouth", why did you feel the urgent need to bash her again?

I'm bashing you, not her. Bashing her would present no challenge and be pointless anyway. What would I prove other than I'm more intelligent than her? Whoopee-doo.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Unless you associate the Yes/No vote with a particular political lean, the poll won't really give you much to point to. After all, there are plenty of frothing D's around here who are likely to vote "yes" just to see a very weak GOP candidate. How will these polls reflect that fact?

Suggestion to fix poll:

Q: Do you want to see Ms Palin run for POTUS in 2012?

A's:
1. I tend to vote Republican and would vote YES for Palin
2. I tend to vote Republican and would vote NO for Palin
3. I tend to vote Democrat and would vote YES for Palin
4. I tend to vote Democrat and would vote NO for Palin
5. I'm an Independent and would vote YES for Palin.
6. I'm an Independent and would vote NO for Palin

True.

Me -> Heck NO!/independant

 

[Synomenon]

I'd like to see her run in 2012.


So I can laugh.

 

[Jaskalas]

I had to pause and think about this one. Is the poll referring to how I'd vote, or is it merely referring to what I'd like to see?

Would it be good or bad if she bombshelled the Republican party?

Would I vote for her?

No. She has a lot to prove.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

It could be called...the Airhead Ticket or the "Humans Walked with Dinosaurs" Ticket or the "Jesus Ponies" Ticket.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Yes, but not for the reasons you might think.

She's an ignorant, useless tool, but she's a darling for the religious right. If she unifies them but doesn't get the mainstream GOP support it might finally lead to the fragmentation of the party into more logical parties.

Personally I'd like to see the zealots join the Constitution party, the neocons go form their own, and leave the true Republicans with their party once again. I'd also imagine a few would transition to the Libertarians, and maybe recover that party for liberty instead of greed.

The GOP polls somewhere around 25 to 28%. If the Religious Right and Neocons leave the party what is left?

It polls low because so many lunatics have taken it over. Get the idiots out and watch viability return. There are actually 5-8 parties in America, just with the Republicans and Democrats...they're just too greedy to split em up like they should be.

 

[jonks]

Oh, Pretty Goddamn Please will she run? Cherry on top? Pleeeeeeze?

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Yes, but not for the reasons you might think.

She's an ignorant, useless tool, but she's a darling for the religious right. If she unifies them but doesn't get the mainstream GOP support it might finally lead to the fragmentation of the party into more logical parties.

Personally I'd like to see the zealots join the Constitution party, the neocons go form their own, and leave the true Republicans with their party once again. I'd also imagine a few would transition to the Libertarians, and maybe recover that party for liberty instead of greed.

I'd like to at least see the religious zealots split off and form their own party (or, like you said, join the Constitution party). They'll get some local officials and probably some national representatives, maybe even a senator, but they won't do well. However, doing so may allow the Republican party get back to its more Libertarian roots, which is DEFINITELY something I'd like to see.

I know it probably won't happen since we're too enamored with our two-party system and the Republicans will be afraid of losing too much power, but I think it might make them stronger in the long run. Right now, I often avoid Republicans because of their stances on social issues. I see them as the party of Big Government intrusion into our lives; the party of the thought police. Fuck that. If they get rid of their religious nutcases and become the party of pragmatic, small-government businessmen, they might just get my vote (and the votes of millions of other centrist Democrats).

Yup. If they'd split they'd gain a majority in consensus on many issues. It's how government SHOULD function. 5-8 medium strength parties which join where they meet, but split where they don't.

It's one of the major reasons our turnouts and participation are so low. It's one of the big reasons so many won't join a party.

I don't want to see Republicans as businessmen, because I generally oppose business. I'm for the workers, not the businesses. I'd like to see them focused on small government...libertarians without the economic greed of that current incarnation. I'd like the ultra-capitalists to just go join their own party where they can care about nothing but their precious money and let the rest of us go on with life.

 

[BoberFett]

I voted yes, but only because it'd be great fodder for comedians.

 

[theeedude]

Run, Sarah, Run!!! We love you so much
-Democrats