Do you use Google, etc. to search images? A court ruling may prevent that shortly.

djheater

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EFF reports it here.



<< Ditto was sued by Les Kelly, a photographer, after Kelly discovered that Ditto had indexed his website and the images found there. Ditto.com prevailed before the trial court, but suffered a defeat on appeal before the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco. Although the Ninth Circuit found that Ditto.com's use of thumbnail images was allowed under the copyright law doctrine of "fair use," it held Ditto.com liable for copyright infringement for opening a new window to display the image. This technique is known as "in-line linking" or "framing" and is commonly used by numerous other Web search engines, including Lycos, Google, and Altavista. By concluding that these common linking techniques infringe copyright law, the Ninth Circuit has seriously threatened linking on the Web. >>



What is the state of censorship on the internet? How do you guys feel about it?

 

pulse8

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When you do an image search on google, it takes you to the original page with the picture. How could this be seen as a bad thing?
 
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first how the hell does one say opening a new page go against copyright laws. Its opening a new page from the source site of the image. Doesnt matter if its in a frame or not. Its makes a life a lot easier for users if its on a frame.

This lawsuit if fivolous. Worse yet is this kelly is trying to get his name out there.. greedy pigs. I am sure he has already made some "promotional" money due to this suit.
 

pyonir

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i very rarely use the search for images thing on google. therefore, i am pretty much indifferent to the whole thing.
 

dude

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Ok, that's weird. I disabled active scripting in IE and my posts came up BLANK!

What gives?
 

Spike

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WTF!?!? is that saying that all linking is bad or only if it has to do with images?
 

911paramedic

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If they have the images posted on their website, too fvcking bad for them. If they don't want us to see their pictures then don't post them. That seems easier than picking a fight with Google...


IMHO
 

gopunk

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who here think kelly is an otherwise mediocre photographer who's just doing this for fame?
 

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<< who here think kelly is an otherwise mediocre photographer who's just doing this for fame? >>


*raises hand*
 

djheater

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<< who here think kelly is an otherwise mediocre photographer who's just doing this for fame? >>



That's really sad, I'd never though of it from that perspective.....
 

Lithium381

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i think it's going to end up like in George Orwells "1984" where government rules EVERYTHING......we're being pressed down and down in our right to free speech and expression, heh it's really lame what they try and do, i mean if i make an image, and put it on the web, i can almost expect that someone would take it(if it were good).....oy!
 

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<< who here think kelly is an otherwise mediocre photographer who's just doing this for fame? >>



I DO, I DO
 

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<< i think it's going to end up like in George Orwells "1984" where government rules EVERYTHING......we're being pressed down and down in our right to free speech and expression, heh it's really lame what they try and do, i mean if i make an image, and put it on the web, i can almost expect that someone would take it(if it were good).....oy! >>



I agree. I forsee a day where intellectual property right issues will create a society where almost anything contrary to the RIAA and MPAA's interest will be illegal. If that means no VCR's so be it. Cant build your own computer either. Might circumvent copyright laws. etc. I see this thinking becoming more prevalent and would have thought it paranoia, but how I see the Digital Copyright Act (or whatever it's being called) was enacted and being enforced, I think it is so. Why dont we have SHDTV's with 2000+ lines of resolution and SHD-DVD recorders? Not because of blue lasers, or any other technical restrictions, but because of lawyers. Grrrrr....:|:|
 

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<< i think it's going to end up like in George Orwells "1984" where government rules EVERYTHING......we're being pressed down and down in our right to free speech and expression, heh it's really lame what they try and do, i mean if i make an image, and put it on the web, i can almost expect that someone would take it(if it were good).....oy! >>


Orwell was correct. It only took 18 years longer than expected in the US.

With things like the SSSCA, however, the government will become an extension of the large companies in the country. This is a process which is making fast progress.