Do you trust Comey/FBI investigating Trump administration?

omega3

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So Comey (FBI) had this reputation of being non-partisan, yet he was silent about the Trump campaign being under investigation before the election, while revealing Clinton was under investigation.

Couldn't care less about Clinton, but what do you think Comey/FBI will reveal about Trump's ties to Russia? Personally I'm not sure if he can be trusted like how much time does he need to find evidence?

Isn't it particularly suspicious that Trump appointed Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State? Tillerson is very close with Putin and basically wants the sactions on Russia lifted so Exxon can start drilling oil in Russia. Doesn't it almost seem certain that Putin has some kind of dirt on Trump (and others) to blackmail him? I mean, Trump has done all kinds of shady business worldwide.

So what can we expect from Comey? Is he in Trump's bag? Do you think Trump will be impeached? What to think about Tillerson's role? I have a feeling that nothing will happen.
 
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theeedude

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Of course not, Comey is the one who put Trump in the White House. But for now it will have to do.
 
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So Comey (FBI) had this reputation of being non-partisan, yet he was silent about the Trump campaign being under investigation before the election, while revealing Clinton was under investigation.

Couldn't care less about Clinton, but what do you think Comey/FBI will reveal about Trump's ties to Russia? Personally I'm not sure if he can be trusted like how much time does he need to find evidence?

Isn't it particularly suspicious that Trump appointed Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State? Tillerson is very close with Putin and basically wants the sactions on Russia lifted so Exxon can start drilling oil in Russia. Doesn't it almost seem certain that Putin has some kind of dirt on Trump (and others) to blackmail him? I mean, Trump has done all kinds of shady business worldwide.

So what can we expect from Comey? Is he in Trump's bag? Do you think Trump will be impeached? What to think about Tillerson's role? I have a feeling that nothing will happen.

I don't think he's in Trump's bag, because he otherwise wouldn't have acknowledged an investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. He'd have been like Nunes, Gowdy and other sycophants trying to distract from the investigation by focusing on the sources of newspaper leaks. I'm still baffled as to why he agreed to talk about Clinton's email in October, since it's well-known that this stemmed from pro-Trump contingents in the FBI wanting to skew the election.

As it stands, I'm not sure Trump has any real choice here. He can fire Comey if he wants, but doing that without proof of wrongdoing would trigger an uproar from all sides, including his own party. We're talking the Republicans finally impeaching Trump, if just because they know that letting him stay at that point would amount to political suicide. In a sense, that's the country's best chance -- Trump can't interfere with the investigation as much as he'd like, so all he can really do is hope that the FBI and other agencies don't have enough dirt to delegitimize his presidency.
 

omega3

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So when will we know more if Comey has something? Did he give an indication? It seems nobody is really paying attention to this with other stuff happening. But seriously, how much time does he need to investigate this if he's already doing this for 9 months or so?
 

trenchfoot

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So when will we know more if Comey has something? Did he give an indication? It seems nobody is really paying attention to this with other stuff happening. But seriously, how much time does he need to investigate this if he's already doing this for 9 months or so?

I'm thinking Comey is giving Trump as much time as possible to use his position as POTUS to extricate himself from any and all personal entanglements with Putin/Kremlin and to distance himself away from any of his staff that have had contact with the Russians or sanitize those that can't be disappeared. It seems to me that Trump is also attempting to "revise" his tax returns to further cloud the issue of his financial dealings with Putin and his fellow oligarch comrades in the Kremlin.

Comey himself is skating on paper thin ice, so he has his own ass to cover, especially from the Dems who are anxiously waiting for a chance to have his traitorous head mounted on a pike.

Bottom line, the more time he is given, the better Trump's chances are of surviving the investigations surrounding his fact checked Russian connections. I suppose all of his pleadings will include the addendum "for the welfare and security of the nation.......".
 
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There was a report that in July Comey wanted to be public with the Trump Russia issue but Obama personally stopped it. There have been multiple reports also that Obama was instructing the justice Dept to keep with the longstanding policy of not interfering with elections.


Personally I am not concerned with Comey. This administration is super leaky and eventually I think WikiLeaks is probably how it will all come out.
 

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There was a report that in July Comey wanted to be public with the Trump Russia issue but Obama personally stopped it. There have been multiple reports also that Obama was instructing the justice Dept to keep with the longstanding policy of not interfering with elections.

This. Obama was an idiot and wanted to protect his stupid legacy, even though it was painfully obvious that the Republicans would never look at him favorably anyways. Both him and Comey made their decisions with the assumption that Hillary was going to win anyway.

Comey got boxed in because of the agents of the NY FBI field office that dragged their feet on the Weiner laptop, so they could maximize its impact later on, which was going to be leaked out to the public even if Comey did nothing. Giuliani obviously was getting leaks from these incensed FBI agents as he somehow knew there was a big surprise coming. Comey I think is trying to make up for it.
 

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Thread Title: Do you Trust Comey?

Conservatives: "Obama sucks!"


*sigh* What did I expect?
 

dank69

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I don't think he's in Trump's bag, because he otherwise wouldn't have acknowledged an investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. He'd have been like Nunes, Gowdy and other sycophants trying to distract from the investigation by focusing on the sources of newspaper leaks. I'm still baffled as to why he agreed to talk about Clinton's email in October, since it's well-known that this stemmed from pro-Trump contingents in the FBI wanting to skew the election.

As it stands, I'm not sure Trump has any real choice here. He can fire Comey if he wants, but doing that without proof of wrongdoing would trigger an uproar from all sides, including his own party. We're talking the Republicans finally impeaching Trump, if just because they know that letting him stay at that point would amount to political suicide. In a sense, that's the country's best chance -- Trump can't interfere with the investigation as much as he'd like, so all he can really do is hope that the FBI and other agencies don't have enough dirt to delegitimize his presidency.
I don't think the Republicans will ever impeach Trump. The only exception is if something comes out that cannot be avoided and cannot be sidestepped with the usual campaign of "fake news" cries to the point that not impeaching Trump will directly lead to representatives losing seats.
 

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I don't think the Republicans will ever impeach Trump. The only exception is if something comes out that cannot be avoided and cannot be sidestepped with the usual campaign of "fake news" cries to the point that not impeaching Trump will directly lead to representatives losing seats.

That's what I was getting at. If Trump fired Comey purely to stifle the Russia investigation (or for some other reason besides competence or the law), the outrage would be so deafening that even today's hyper-partisan Republican party would have to do something if it wanted to stand a chance in 2018 or 2020.
 

Sunburn74

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Honestly the fact that trump will run again in 2020 and we will have to sit through another year of pure shit show sickens me.
 

woolfe9998

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It was Comey's decision to begin investigating this last July, and it's been his decision to continue it since Trump has taken office. Comey has total investigatory discretion here. I suspect he would have dropped this some time ago if he is trying to protect Trump. I think he's probably playing it by the book.
 

Pens1566

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Yes. Between him wanting to go public prior to the election and admitting in public that there is an investigation, I think he's going to be an honest broker. What comes out will either force the current congress to impeach, or they'll lose their seats stonewalling and a wave in the '18 elections will turn enough seats to impeach then. There's just too much "there" there. All it will take is for one of the alleged tapes (not pee pee) to be played/released. And it's supposedly every western intel agency that has some variation of them.
 

dank69

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That's what I was getting at. If Trump fired Comey purely to stifle the Russia investigation (or for some other reason besides competence or the law), the outrage would be so deafening that even today's hyper-partisan Republican party would have to do something if it wanted to stand a chance in 2018 or 2020.
Well I honestly don't think firing Comey would be close to enough to change anything. Any Republicans that cried foul would get attacked by Trump and Trump loyalists would put the fear into them just like opponents during the campaign.
 

Sonikku

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I don't think the Republicans will ever impeach Trump. The only exception is if something comes out that cannot be avoided and cannot be sidestepped with the usual campaign of "fake news" cries to the point that not impeaching Trump will directly lead to representatives losing seats.
It is not entirely impossible. If it happens though it will be in large part because their dominance would be just as ensured if not more so with Pence than with Trump.