moshquerade
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tell the author of the article you "highly doubt it". he was very convincing. if i have time later i'll see if i can find it for you online.
that IT guy who is really good at his tech stuff, but has some quirky things about him, yeh, that could be Aspergers. people with aspergers are usually functional members of society unlike those with other forms of autism. so why the need for a diagnosis?
Throckmorton
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- Aug 23, 2007
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You think symptoms of aspergers include long frizzy ponytails, black "humor tshirt", jean shorts, and white sneakers?
What isn't wrong with you? Did your mother live by a Toxic Chemical dump when she was pregnant with you? You seem like one of the types that looks for attention by claiming to have all sorts of ailments.
I'm just saying.
Please do.
Quirky really is a very poor descriptor for Aspergers. Therapists need a diagnosis b/c insurance demands one for treatment to be covered. Therapists want to get paid, so they give a diagnosis that can be covered. Hence the over-diagnosing of the US population.
jaqie
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As odd as it may sound, there is a lot I'm not telling people here I have. I only mention it when it's pertinent to the discussion. My poor mother is much worse off then I am mentally, and I am so glad I am not as bad off as her. Frankly, I don't give a damn about people that think I am trying to get attention. If I wanted it, I would definitely say everything that is wrong with me and get all emo about it. As it stands, if you look at my various posts, I am (clumsily at times) trying to help people with my posts, to teach, to get my ideas across, to know where the OP is coming from, et cetra. See, I could decide if I wanted to be emo make a list of the problems ive got here and cry and whine about 'em, but you don't see that, do you? No, you don't. There are IRC channels that if I wanted attention I could get plenty there as well. I could also get into a career in the circus as a clown or other act, that gets lots of attention... or I could go on one of those crazy talk shows and say all sorts of whacked out crap. But that's not what I want.
here is an amazing must see video that sheds light on extreme autism.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc
jaqie
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Well... In ways, yes. In other ways, definitely not.
I wish I could quantify it better then that, but everything I come up with seems to be giving the wrong idea.
Suffice it to say that I am really not good with any communication type.
I was diagnosed with HFA NOS, if you are curious as to the diagnosis.
I wish I could quantify it better then that, but everything I come up with seems to be giving the wrong idea.
Suffice it to say that I am really not good with any communication type.
I was diagnosed with HFA NOS, if you are curious as to the diagnosis.
Atomic Playboy
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no problem. I just think more people need to wake up and understand that Autism is a serious issue right now. 1 in 150 children will have some autistic trait diagnosed. That may not seem like a lot to some, but when you have a child or your wife is pregnant, it's a very scary number. Sure, even if they have autism, sometimes it's not bad, and the child can communicate and lead a fairly normal life, but sometimes, the child is like mine. She is 6 (will be 7 next month) is still in diapers, and most likely will be in them her whole life. She doesn't communicate with us (in a way that we can understand anyways), and has been to numerous professionals and we've been told that she will never get beyond the level of a 3 year old.
The saddest part of Autism, and it's something that a lot of the videos you watch don't mention, is that the children seem normal up until they are 2-ish and it's almost like someone flipped a switch and altered them. It's pretty heart breaking to have your child taken away from you and you get for lack of an easier way to say it, a copy with a blank slate, that doesn't learn they way she used to.
My daughter said words and did things normal kids do then just changed. lost all her words, lost her potty training and after 5 years now, hasn't regained any of it.
I've been told that I may be mildly autistic. I'm great at math (arithmetic, geometry, calculus, you name it, I can do most problems in my head). Sometimes I shun social interaction, preferring to remain in my room playing on my computer.
Oh wait, that's everyone on ATOT.
On the other hand, I'm good at small talk and have a likable personality. So whatever
Oh wait, that's everyone on ATOT.
On the other hand, I'm good at small talk and have a likable personality. So whatever
moshquerade
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They use the word "quirky" in this article as I have.
Not everyone with Aspergers needs treatment. People are so quick to want to label everyone and everything and then try to get these people to a therapist to make them talk their way into being more "normal".
Here's the article I had mentioned that I've read:
http://www.computerworld.com/a...asic&articleId=9072119
Oh shit, that's what I do sometimes I would try to play "drums" on all kinds of surfaces just to see what it sounds like. But I probably don't have autism, more of ADHD perhaps
Self-diagnosed somewhere just above or around Asperger's on the autistic scale... self-diagnosed hypochondriac as well.
Really, anyone can have autistic symptoms but not be considered autistic. It's a range, not an on/off switch like "do you have the flu?"
Really, anyone can have autistic symptoms but not be considered autistic. It's a range, not an on/off switch like "do you have the flu?"
cubeless
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everybody's got to have an excuse for being a fuck up theses days... the good old diagnosis of '"you're a fuck up" is too concrete and gathers no funds for treatment...
i'm a bipolar depressive adhd drunk... and it's good for me!!!
the couple percent of the population who may actually have a real disorder are injured by the legions of irresponsible pieces of crap who just need to get on with their lives and quit bitching about everything...
i'm a bipolar depressive adhd drunk... and it's good for me!!!
the couple percent of the population who may actually have a real disorder are injured by the legions of irresponsible pieces of crap who just need to get on with their lives and quit bitching about everything...
I read the article.
Letme first say taht it was very poorly written. I gave it a quick read, and found myself wondering what exactly the author was trying to say. So I went over it again. After a few stories and a couple of descriptions of symptoms, I found the one little line, "Problems over people? Hmm, sounds like a techie." (page 1). So one of the points of the article was to suggest that a "techie" or someone in the tech field is likely to have aspergers or at least appers to be a person with aspergers. So we aren't making allowances for people who hae different interests and priorities than "normal" people? What about the possibility that some people just like and are engrossed in tech? Can that same person also have anxiety or discomfort with other people, of if so will they be considered an "Aspie" if they do? The genrealization and categorization of a group of professionals is grand hackery at its finest.
Also, it seems to me that the article left out one very important aspect of diagnostic criteria: C. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning. Significant impairment in any one of those areas would make it close to impossible to get a job in the first place. How is someone who is significantly impaired socially going to get through an interview unless the interviewer and corporation is very understanding of the condition of the individual? An "impairment" in the field of psychology is not considered clinically significant unless it creates considerable difficulty for the individual in living their life.
There are a couple more assumptions in the article, such as "People with aspergers gravitate toward IT jobs," and "Aspies are everywhere among us."
As far as the "1 in 150" estimate found here, this figure is highly doubtful also. Autism and Aspergers are in vogue to diagnose right now. You will be seeing more and more kids diagnosed with it. I am not sure what the exact reasoning is, but i witnessed the same phenomena in grad school where the favorite diagnoses were schizophrenia and borderline personality disorder. You find it out in the field just as much. There are a couple reasons i can think off of the top of my head: 1. is insurance necessity (which i mentioned before). 2. Sense of competence and power in being able to pin down a client's "problem" in a neat, well packaged way.
A big problem is that people, especially lay people, do not understand that DSM IV diagnoses are genrally not a black and white thing, but more a guide for professionals to categorize commonly occurring symptoms within a grouping for the purpose of research, identification, and conceptualization. B/C these thigns are not so black and white, diagnoses need to be made very thoughtfully and carefully. As a crude example, think of an episode of house. You know all the running around and examining and studying of varying factors they do to nail down a diagnosis, and how difficult it is due to complexity and lack of predictability? It is similar for psychological diagnoses. Or at least it should be.
edit: lol at irony: "Letme first say taht it was very poorly written."
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