Do you think this is objective?

hopejr

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I think it is one of the most objective, but still has a hint of bias (they pick at stupid little things on both platforms).
 

Xyclone

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The fact that Mac OS X is so propietary makes it very inferior to Windows XP. Those details are stupid, no one really cares about most of them.
 

nweaver

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Originally posted by: Xyclone
The fact that Mac OS X is so propietary makes it very inferior to Windows XP. Those details are stupid, no one really cares about most of them.

The same could be argued about the closed source versus open source of OSX's backbone.
 
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how is MS not proprietary? i mean I'm windows all the way (if you're not a complete idiot, it usually just works. even if it doesn't, most of the time it's an easy fix vs linux) but it's very, very proprietary. NONE of its source is open.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Xyclone
The fact that Mac OS X is so propietary makes it very inferior to Windows XP. Those details are stupid, no one really cares about most of them.

Um, Mac OS X is fairly open. In a number of ways.
 

remagavon

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It's not completely objective.

However, the interface section is definitely worth a read. The way the menu at the top changes simultaneously to affect the application you're working with is probably the best part of the interface. Expose is nice as well, but I have a mac mini and it's horribly sluggish.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: remagavon
It's not completely objective.

However, the interface section is definitely worth a read. The way the menu at the top changes simultaneously to affect the application you're working with is probably the best part of the interface. Expose is nice as well, but I have a mac mini and it's horribly sluggish.

Expose isn't sluggish in the least. It runs at a consistent speed on pretty much all Mac hardware that supports Quartz Extreme (I believe that's the label for the gfx card accelerated OpenGL desktop). It does however drop frames if it is running low on video RAM (a good feature, because if it didn't drop frames it would in fact get sluggish). I think what you meant to say is that it is choppy on Macs without 'decent' video hardware.
 

Nothinman

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The way the menu at the top changes simultaneously to affect the application you're working with is probably the best part of the interface.

That's one of the worst features of OS X, I like having seperate title bars and being able to move them where ever I want. I frequently click on the menu bar of a window without focus (actually I use sloppy focus, so it follows the mouse even though the window doesn't raise to the top until it has focus for a few seconds) to do something, in OS X I would have to bring one of the windows of that application forward before the menu would become accessible.
 

magomago

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not objective and the points are given on a subjective basis as to how it "feels" and "works"...might be an idea to see what others think..but in no way is it accurate
 

imported_BikeDude

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I thought it was an interesting comparison, but e.g. his recyclebin comparison looks iffy.

What he considers a plus (being able to open a deleted folder inside the bin) is something I'd say is pretty close to a bug.

Imagine opening such a folder, go on a lunch break, and when you get back you start working with your machine again, this time with a neat folder window stuck in the front and you go "hmm, I can probably just save this file here...".

Personally I delete most files from the command line and my recycle bin gets extremely little use (I try to avoid it), but for the average user out there... No, I wouldn't want them start using deleted folders willy-nilly.

Bugs or features aside... When you start comparing recycle bin implementations... That's when you're no longer comparing Operating Systems... I don't know what that is, but it certainly isn't about the OS any more.

As for the "rename files that are open" -- if you can't rename a .pdf when viewed from Adobe Reader, perhaps that is an Adobe Reader issue and not an OS issue? (The OS allows you to rename a memory mapped executable, so why should the OS stop you renaming that .pdf unless Adobe has forgotten to specify the necessary share mode flags?) Perhaps there is a XP issue there, but a proper comparison would've analyzed this further.
 

JDCentral

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iDUnno.. I think it's a bunch of B.S.

I mean... take the web-serving section.. how does OS X score THE SAME as WinXP pro?

I'm pretty sure there ISN'T a built-in web server in XP Pro (unless I just can't find it...) - with OS X you just check the box, and it works!!! PHP/mysql, and everything, boom!

Video Editing? OS X scores a ONE (1) and XP scored a 7 or an 8... Isn't OS X THE video-editing medium of choice among professionals?

PHHHFTT!!!
 

Nothinman

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I'm pretty sure there ISN'T a built-in web server in XP Pro (unless I just can't find it...) - with OS X you just check the box, and it works!!! PHP/mysql, and everything, boom!

You can install IIS on XP Pro pretty easily and it'll do ASP, but you're limited to 10 concurrent connections and no virtual hosts.

Video Editing? OS X scores a ONE (1) and XP scored a 7 or an 8... Isn't OS X THE video-editing medium of choice among professionals?

Macs aren't nearly as popular for photo and video editing as they used to be and some places are only still using them because they had them already. And if you read the article he gave OS X such a bad rating because it doesn't have any editing tools out of the box and the only ones available from Apple cost $79 extra. As good or bad as Windows Movie Maker may be, it's free and it's included with the OS.

 

hopejr

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um, what about a new mac with iMovie on it? I know it doesn't come with the OS, but it's on the computer anyway.
 

Nothinman

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How much extra do you pay to get iMovie with that Mac? If it's nothing, then you should email those people and correct them =)
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
How much extra do you pay to get iMovie with that Mac? If it's nothing, then you should email those people and correct them =)

When you buy the machine you get iLife for free. You also get a trial of iWork. So, iMovie is free when you buy the Mac. If you want updated versions, you have to buy iLife at $80 a pop. Which isn't much, IMO, for what you get.

I think it mentioned this in the article. ;)