do you think things happen for a reason?

[FoBoT]

sometimes, i suppose

 

[mzkhadir]

sometimes I do, when someone falls or trips and you laugh at them for doing that, because you laughed at them, it going to happen to you.

 

[eplebnista]

do you think things happen for a reason?

No

 

[Shawn]

nope, not at all.

 

[MoPHo]

yes. things happen because one event lead to another and the thing happened because of the two events.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i'm am asking it like you meet someone by chance and later that person becomes your best friend. well, you chance met that person for a reason. so when you look at something like that do you see things in your life happening and then later see that it happened for a reason.

Well, assuming you never met that person, would that mean you would not have a best friend then?

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

No.

 

[Wahsapa]

what reason?

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Time will tell!

 

[OS]

"it could be the only reason for your existence is to serve as warning to others"

 

[Shawn]

poll?

 

[Willoughbyva]

I belive things happen. Sometimes they can be forseen. When something happens we try to put a reason to it. I guess sometimes where we are comming from causes us to put certain reasons to certain things. Perhaps because of the way we were raised or what we expect. The question is sometimes can we step aside our own upbringing or psychological schema (spelled wrong probably) and put different meanings to things to control our response to it or justify an action. Perhaps it is like a rock thrown into a pond on a calm windless day. There are ripple effects, but can we understand what those effects are and even change their meaning. So I guess it is about how much we think about things too or how little we think about things. Can we control the effect the world or things autside ourselves have on us through sheer will or thought process or are we incapble of doing such things? I think everyone controls what their reaction to an event is. Either by what we have learned through our lives or by thinking of a different alternative reason. So if one says reason is in the eye of the beholder then one has to ask what is truth. Some people say that truth is in the eye of the beholder, but others say that truth is finite and learnable and there are right and wrong things to do and we sometimes use past experience to determine our response whither automatic or reasoned out. I think the dictionary says that truth is convuloted, so it may take some time to discern what truth is. The other question is if we can change our response or reasoning to a situation or event should we. How do we know the best response at the time? Do we reason things out so that we feel better? Do we grit our teeth and think that there might be a good outcome if we do certain things so that perhaps a bad event will make things better in the long run? I sort of live my life by not trying to make to many decisions. Or to keep things simple. I am an introvert, so I like thinking about things. I sometimes come up with different conclusions about things over time once I have thought about it. So I guess I try to realize how an even will effect me and plan for the worst and hope for the best. I would never be anygood at a demanding job or high stress situations, so I try to keep my life simple and clean. Sorry I got off track please read this response and ask questions. btw I do believe in a higher power.

 

[Willoughbyva]

I guess I want to add that sometimes it might be good to not reason things out. Someone said rational of the irrational. The thing is how do we know when something is irrational? So I guess the question is what is truth. Can we reason truth out? Truth is more than reason. But reason helps figuring out what truth is. Is truth a shinning image or purity? I already stated that truth is convoluted. What do you think?

 

[phisrow]

Efficient causes: Yes. Final causes: No.

 

[jagec]

Of course things happen for a reason. For example, if I get into a car accident, the reason is that the decelleration forces applied to my car by the brakes were insufficient to reach a full stop by the time I hit the other guy. If that's not a reason, I don't know what is.

 

[Willoughbyva]

What are efficient and final causes?

 

[phisrow]

An old Aristotelian distinction. Essentially, efficient cause is what made something happen(e.g. A billiard ball moves because I push it, Water boils because it is heated, etc.) Final cause is something's purpose (e.g. Grass grows to provide food for herbivores, Animals have legs in order that they may walk, etc.)

 

[Willoughbyva]

Sounds like two tracks of reasoning or how far one wishes to think things through. Literal or common knowledge and that which is more abstract. I guess both are related to philosiphy since aerostotle thought them through.

 

[Kadarin]

Things always happen for a reason. It's all about cause ---> effect. I do not believe there is intelligence or design behind it, though.

 

[2cpuminimum]

Thing happen because I make them happen. For example, I entered a blank post because I hit "reply to topic" because I was wondering what it did. However, not everything is observable cause and effect. There is true randomness.

 

[MillionaireNextDoor]

Let's suppose someone knows what's going to happen to you in the future. Can't that someone affect you today and you not know it at the time? Well, if that someone has the power to do so, then sure, why not?

Don't forget third-party involvement without your knowing at the time or even never is all too plausible (e.g. friend leads you to a surprise birthday party, a cop knows there's an accident on the center of the freeway around the corner ahead and slows everyone down by swerving left right left, etc.).

Now what if that someone has more power?

 

[QuitBanningMe]

No they don't happen for any reason. Of course I would like to think that my wife was lead on a journey by fate a 1000 miles from her hometown due to a previous marriage to meet. Even more since we shared several friends making it almost impossible for us not to meet.

Or maybe I met my best friend in cub scouts at six years old then moved away, after several years moved to the neighborhood he lived in, and then after ten years apart moved to the same city by fate.

Only other "fate" occurrence would actually be seperation from a co-best friend who I could see myself with but our paths never crossed at the right time and to this day keep us seperated except for the occasional contact.

Of corse there are other factors in the grand scheme like the fact that the co-best friend tried and succeeded at breaking up every serious relationship I ever had except the current one which she says "sounds like you were meant to be together" which if she had not been succesful in breaking up one I would have been married (and most likely divorced already)......................


Fate?hmmmmm.....I don't know....I'll think about it more when the buzz wears of.