Do you think there is a plan for humanity?

BudAshes2

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Or are we just a big nasty virus feeding off this planet till we suck it dry?

I think if we did have a purpose the only thing it could possibly be would for us to spread life across the universe. Eventually our planet will blow up and if we are the only life in the universe(its quite possible theres other life in out there and this point is invalid) it would be our job as the dominant species to spread it out into the universe. Human Beings are so screwed up and incomplete that I cant see us ever creating some kind of utopia or finding some kind of ultimate truth to the universe. But because we always need something more and are quite good at creating technology we would be a very good tool for spreading life out among the stars. Of course we'd have to live long enough to create the technology, but as far as I can tell theres really no other purpose we could have.

I guess im just looking for some justification for our existence. Not that there has to be one, its just nice to think we might have a purpose.
 
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As a Christian, we read the "plan" in Revelations and, although it's seen through the eyes of a man living 2,000 years ago it sounds pretty damn rough.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a Christian, we read the "plan" in Revelations and, although it's seen through the eyes of a man living 2,000 years ago it sounds pretty damn bad.

YOU may be a christian.

That sentence sucks. Jesus sucks. ;)
 

BudAshes2

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a Christian, we read the "plan" in Revelations and, although it's seen through the eyes of a man living 2,000 years ago it sounds pretty damn rough.

Unfortunately self delusion is not one of my virtues.


edit* neither is spelling, in fact im not even sure if i spelled neither right.
 
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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a Christian, we read the "plan" in Revelations and, although it's seen through the eyes of a man living 2,000 years ago it sounds pretty damn bad.

YOU may be a christian.

That sentence sucks. Jesus sucks. ;)

"Do you think there is a plan for humanity"

I answered his question. You, on the other hand, posted a trolling response as usual. :thumbsup:
 

DainBramaged

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I believe there is a specific plan for humanity, but most people here don't believe in God much less my particular beliefs.
 
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Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a Christian, we read the "plan" in Revelations and, although it's seen through the eyes of a man living 2,000 years ago it sounds pretty damn rough.

Unfortunately self delusion is not one of my virtues.


edit* neither is spelling, in fact im not even sure if i spelled neither right.

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DAGTA

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a Christian, we read the "plan" in Revelations and, although it's seen through the eyes of a man living 2,000 years ago it sounds pretty damn rough.

Unfortunately self delusion is not one of my virtues.


edit* neither is spelling, in fact im not even sure if i spelled neither right.


If you don't believe in God or any god, how can there be a plan for humanity? A plan implies a higher being and/or design.
 

BudAshes2

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I believe there is a specific plan for humanity, but most people here don't believe in God much less my particular beliefs.

please im curious, fill me in if you got the time.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a Christian, we read the "plan" in Revelations and, although it's seen through the eyes of a man living 2,000 years ago it sounds pretty damn bad.

YOU may be a christian.

That sentence sucks. Jesus sucks. ;)

"Do you think there is a plan for humanity"

I answered his question. You, on the other hand, posted a trolling response as usual. :thumbsup:

unknot your panties godbotherer ;)

I was just messing with ya.

Can't christians choose to ignore that bit in revelations? A bit like the new testament makes all the cool smiting stuff in the old testament not cool?
 

BudAshes2

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a Christian, we read the "plan" in Revelations and, although it's seen through the eyes of a man living 2,000 years ago it sounds pretty damn rough.

Unfortunately self delusion is not one of my virtues.


edit* neither is spelling, in fact im not even sure if i spelled neither right.


If you don't believe in God or any god, how can there be a plan for humanity? A plan implies a higher being and/or design.

Im agnostic not atheist.
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I believe there is a specific plan for humanity, but most people here don't believe in God much less my particular beliefs.

please im curious, fill me in if you got the time.

I believe that the sole purpose of mankind is for the greater glory of God. Starting from the Garden of Eden when the first humans were created in the image of God, He desired companionship and a creature that would love and respect Him. According to the way that the Bible proceeds, humankind did not follow this plan, choosing instead to rebel against the simple rules that were placed for them. As a result, all of mankind have been given a "sin nature" that prevents them from fellowshiping with God in the way that He originally designed. The only way to remedy this situation is for a human to acknowledge that they are sinful and to accept the gift of salvation that Jesus Christ has given us though his crucifixion on the cross. Because Christ was perfect, he was able to sacrifice Himself in our place as an atonement to the all-powerful and all-just God that required some payment for the sin that was made and passed down from the Garden.

God's ultimate plan for humanity is that as many of us as possible will celebrate all eternity in fellowship with him. It is stated very explicitly in the Bible that the only way to do so is to throw out trust and faith in the atonement that Christ has made for us on the cross.

I believe the above with all of my heart and am willing to die for it. Many will laugh or mock or nitpick but I will belive it to my dying day. What's the worst that could happen? I'll die a better person for trying. The best that could happen? I'll live in eternal paradise with my Creator.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I believe there is a specific plan for humanity, but most people here don't believe in God much less my particular beliefs.

please im curious, fill me in if you got the time.

I believe that the sole purpose of mankind is for the greater glory of God. Starting from the Garden of Eden when the first humans were created in the image of God, He desired companionship and a creature that would love and respect Him. According to the way that the Bible proceeds, humankind did not follow this plan, choosing instead to rebel against the simple rules that were placed for them. As a result, all of mankind have been given a "sin nature" that prevents them from fellowshiping with God in the way that He originally designed. The only way to remedy this situation is for a human to acknowledge that they are sinful and to accept the gift of salvation that Jesus Christ has given us though his crucifixion on the cross. Because Christ was perfect, he was able to sacrifice Himself in our place as an atonement to the all-powerful and all-just God that required some payment for the sin that was made and passed down from the Garden.

God's ultimate plan for humanity is that as many of us as possible will celebrate all eternity in fellowship with him. It is made very explicit in the Bible that the only way to do so is to throw out trust and faith in the atonement that Christ has made for us on the cross.

I believe the above with all of my heart and am willing to die for it. Many will laugh or mock or nitpick but I will belive it to my dying day. What's the worst that could happen? I'll die a better person for trying. The best that could happen? I'll live in eternal paradise with my Creator.

*knocks*

Dain, is that you in there?
 

wfbberzerker

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I believe there is a specific plan for humanity, but most people here don't believe in God much less my particular beliefs.

please im curious, fill me in if you got the time.

I believe that the sole purpose of mankind is for the greater glory of God. Starting from the Garden of Eden when the first humans were created in the image of God, He desired companionship and a creature that would love and respect Him. According to the way that the Bible proceeds, humankind did not follow this plan, choosing instead to rebel against the simple rules that were placed for them. As a result, all of mankind have been given a "sin nature" that prevents them from fellowshiping with God in the way that He originally designed. The only way to remedy this situation is for a human to acknowledge that they are sinful and to accept the gift of salvation that Jesus Christ has given us though his crucifixion on the cross. Because Christ was perfect, he was able to sacrifice Himself in our place as an atonement to the all-powerful and all-just God that required some payment for the sin that was made and passed down from the Garden.

God's ultimate plan for humanity is that as many of us as possible will celebrate all eternity in fellowship with him. It is made very explicit in the Bible that the only way to do so is to throw out trust and faith in the atonement that Christ has made for us on the cross.

I believe the above with all of my heart and am willing to die for it. Many will laugh or mock or nitpick but I will belive it to my dying day. What's the worst that could happen? I'll die a better person for trying. The best that could happen? I'll live in eternal paradise with my Creator.

*knocks*

Dain, is that you in there?

i know, weird isn't it?
 

BudAshes2

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I believe there is a specific plan for humanity, but most people here don't believe in God much less my particular beliefs.

please im curious, fill me in if you got the time.

I believe that the sole purpose of mankind is for the greater glory of God. Starting from the Garden of Eden when the first humans were created in the image of God, He desired companionship and a creature that would love and respect Him. According to the way that the Bible proceeds, humankind did not follow this plan, choosing instead to rebel against the simple rules that were placed for them. As a result, all of mankind have been given a "sin nature" that prevents them from fellowshiping with God in the way that He originally designed. The only way to remedy this situation is for a human to acknowledge that they are sinful and to accept the gift of salvation that Jesus Christ has given us though his crucifixion on the cross. Because Christ was perfect, he was able to sacrifice Himself in our place as an atonement to the all-powerful and all-just God that required some payment for the sin that was made and passed down from the Garden.

God's ultimate plan for humanity is that as many of us as possible will celebrate all eternity in fellowship with him. It is stated very explicitly in the Bible that the only way to do so is to throw out trust and faith in the atonement that Christ has made for us on the cross.

I believe the above with all of my heart and am willing to die for it. Many will laugh or mock or nitpick but I will belive it to my dying day. What's the worst that could happen? I'll die a better person for trying. The best that could happen? I'll live in eternal paradise with my Creator.

Actually the best thing that could happen is that you will give up trying to know the truth and accept a doctrine that lets you think about something else besides why we are here. Ignorance is bliss. Humanity, as far as I can tell, is much more effective when it doesnt question its existence. I think its why i'm so damn useless. Its tough to dedicate yourself when you spend brain power is wasted questioning everything you do.

Unfortunately im so damn arrogant i cant just give up and be gullible. I think ill keep this up till the day i die. Fortunately i still have a little hope left, but every day seems to suck a little more away.


edit* Oh i just realized you were being facetious. Your subtelty is commendable. Anyway my post still stands.
 

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If we dont blow ourselves up, I can see us someday terraforming Mars and maybe Venus. I would love to see that day if it were to come, but I wont :(
 

AbAbber2k

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I believe there is a specific plan for humanity, but most people here don't believe in God much less my particular beliefs.

please im curious, fill me in if you got the time.

I believe that the sole purpose of mankind is for the greater glory of God. Starting from the Garden of Eden when the first humans were created in the image of God, He desired companionship and a creature that would love and respect Him. According to the way that the Bible proceeds, humankind did not follow this plan, choosing instead to rebel against the simple rules that were placed for them.

Sounds like God done fvcked up.
 

Vic

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Why are the only choices for "plans" either doomsday or doomsday?
 

DainBramaged

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Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I believe there is a specific plan for humanity, but most people here don't believe in God much less my particular beliefs.

please im curious, fill me in if you got the time.

I believe that the sole purpose of mankind is for the greater glory of God. Starting from the Garden of Eden when the first humans were created in the image of God, He desired companionship and a creature that would love and respect Him. According to the way that the Bible proceeds, humankind did not follow this plan, choosing instead to rebel against the simple rules that were placed for them.

Sounds like God done fvcked up.

That's the beauty of free will, God wanted us to do things one way but we have the free choice to choose not to do it that way.