Do you think Porn is cheating? POLL

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Personally, I would screw any non-diseased woman that offered...regardless of whether I "liked" them or not.

Your mother included in that list?

 

[Bryophyte]

No, of course not.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

i.e. - viewing every pretty girl that passes your way as a girl you would like to have sex with and therefore being incapable of treating them as a human being).

I feel sorry for you if you think wanting to have sex with someone means you cannot treat them as a human.

It really depends on your definition of how you treat a person as a human being.

My criteria is a bit strict. But I have found that I have deeper, longer lasting friendships because of that. **There have been times in my life (times of doubt) where I chose not to do this (very regretable) **

Sure most people can treat each other with a certain level of civility. I have even seen people "mask" their true nature, just to attract a girl they want to have sex with.

But my definition of treating a person as a fellow human being is treating them as you would treat yourself. In other words, being genuine and honest with them (Meaning you can't be anybody other than who you genuinely are in front of someone just to impress them <most guys that just think about pretty girls they want to have sex with do this quite frequently> ). Treating them with respect, but with respect that is innate in every human, as well as respect that is earned. Mind you, I notice a pretty girl just like every other Joe Schmoe out there, but I find that if I do the above, I get to know the person on a more genuine level, and from there I can see if the person is a genuine human being or not. It works with same gender friends, too. If the person is at all fake while I am being genuine, you can spot it a mile away. But again, the issue is that porn somehow skews your view of women to only look for physical beauty.

You take half of the guys in ATOT and you show them a picture of a pretty girl, and the first thing they say or do, is "I'd do her." :roll:

If they see a girl that doesn't fit their view of beauty (which is totally physical to them), they shun her or make lewd remarks. (Example - the picture of the 23 year old that many joked as looking 43) From what I could deduce from the OP who posted it, she was a perfect match in personality and looks for him (and that is what made her beautiful).

Tell your chick or ex to give your balls back.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Personally, I would screw any non-diseased woman that offered...regardless of whether I "liked" them or not.

Your mother included in that list?

No but shes on my list .

 

[49erinnc]

I don't consider it to be cheating, by definition. However, I do know that a lot of women are offended and hurt if their SO is looking at porn. It affects their self-esteem because they feel as though they're not satisfying you on a sexual level when you have to get your kicks online. Women have a hard time understanding that men are very, very visual. So if you're looking at porn, while in a committed relationship, don't be surprised if your SO's self-esteem takes a hit. If you simply have to look at porn, I suggest trying to incorporate your SO into viewing it. If she has no interest than avoid porn all together or just be a lot more careful with your viewing habits as to not offend her or make her feel as though she's inadequate.

 

[trmiv]

Originally posted by: DaShen
I find that most guys look at porn/masturbation as an outlet for frustration or lack of self esteem in their own life. It is a cheap, quick thrill that satisfies them enough that they don't have to take a proactive step in finding a partner (SO) and moving on with a productive life.

Of course, that is all done subconsciously, most guys think of it as quick enjoyment, but I find that porn has negative aspects. I find that the only times that I have looked at porn were times where I was unsatisfied with my life, or frustrated with where I was in my life. And it is a losing battle, the more you feel despondent about your life, the more you turn to porn to give you that quick, cheap fix, and the more you don't deal with the real issues.

Yes, it is cheating. Cheating you out of cool relationships. Cheating you from viewing others in a manner that could build relationships (i.e. - viewing every pretty girl that passes your way as a girl you would like to have sex with and therefore being incapable of treating them as a human being). Fantasizing about a girl that other than physical beauty is probably really damaged emotionally means that you only regard physical beauty in relationships and therefore become calloused to mostly everything else. Building relationships with that mindset will eventually cheat you out of a great relationship with a girl that would make you a better person.

As for the learning aspect of porn, :roll:... there are plenty of books out there that talk about sex if you want to learn, but seriously, wouldn't you rather learn with someone that you can be vulnerable with and learn together through talking about it and experimenting, rather than a Cathode Ray Tube or LCD that puts up images that can't reciprocate those cheap thrills? (run-on, I know for you grammar nazis)

The title of this thread is "Do you think Porn is cheating?" not "Is porn morally right?" Asking if you think porn is cheating kind of implies this is about a person who is already in a relationship, doesn't it?

 

[bigfil]

Originally posted by: 49erinnc
I don't consider it to be cheating, by definition. However, I do know that a lot of women are offended and hurt if their SO is looking at porn. It affects their self-esteem because they feel as though they're not satisfying you on a sexual level when you have to get your kicks online. Women have a hard time understanding that men are very, very visual. So if you're looking at porn, while in a committed relationship, don't be surprised if your SO's self-esteem takes a hit. If you simply have to look at porn, I suggest trying to incorporate your SO into viewing it. If she has no interest than avoid porn all together or just be a lot more careful with your viewing habits as to not offend her or make her feel as though she's inadequate.

u hit it on the spot
and yeah id hit it
lofl

 

[Bryophyte]

I think that it's primarily young women with their first boyfriend or two who are threatened by porn. It's an insecurity that most grow out of.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Topic Title: Do you think Porn is cheating?

God mode is cheating.. porn is more along the lines of using a strategy guide.

That's sig material...until I get bored with it

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I think that it's primarily young women with their first boyfriend or two who are threatened by porn. It's an insecurity that most grow out of.

And then some of them move on to watching it with their boyfriend

 

[erub]

what if the girl watches porn?

 

[midwestfisherman]

Originally posted by: DaShen
I find that most guys look at porn/masturbation as an outlet for frustration or lack of self esteem in their own life. It is a cheap, quick thrill that satisfies them enough that they don't have to take a proactive step in finding a partner (SO) and moving on with a productive life.

Of course, that is all done subconsciously, most guys think of it as quick enjoyment, but I find that porn has negative aspects. I find that the only times that I have looked at porn were times where I was unsatisfied with my life, or frustrated with where I was in my life. And it is a losing battle, the more you feel despondent about your life, the more you turn to porn to give you that quick, cheap fix, and the more you don't deal with the real issues.

Yes, it is cheating. Cheating you out of cool relationships. Cheating you from viewing others in a manner that could build relationships (i.e. - viewing every pretty girl that passes your way as a girl you would like to have sex with and therefore being incapable of treating them as a human being). Fantasizing about a girl that other than physical beauty is probably really damaged emotionally means that you only regard physical beauty in relationships and therefore become calloused to mostly everything else. Building relationships with that mindset will eventually cheat you out of a great relationship with a girl that would make you a better person.

As for the learning aspect of porn, :roll:... there are plenty of books out there that talk about sex if you want to learn, but seriously, wouldn't you rather learn with someone that you can be vulnerable with and learn together through talking about it and experimenting, rather than a Cathode Ray Tube or LCD that puts up images that can't reciprocate those cheap thrills? (run-on, I know for you grammar nazis)

Wow! We have our own Dr. Phil here on ATOT.

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Bryophyte
I think that it's primarily young women with their first boyfriend or two who are threatened by porn. It's an insecurity that most grow out of.

And then some of them move on to watching it with their boyfriend

Yep. Some watch it without their SO as well.

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: DaShen
I find that most guys look at porn/masturbation as an outlet for frustration or lack of self esteem in their own life. It is a cheap, quick thrill that satisfies them enough that they don't have to take a proactive step in finding a partner (SO) and moving on with a productive life.

Of course, that is all done subconsciously, most guys think of it as quick enjoyment, but I find that porn has negative aspects. I find that the only times that I have looked at porn were times where I was unsatisfied with my life, or frustrated with where I was in my life. And it is a losing battle, the more you feel despondent about your life, the more you turn to porn to give you that quick, cheap fix, and the more you don't deal with the real issues.

Yes, it is cheating. Cheating you out of cool relationships. Cheating you from viewing others in a manner that could build relationships (i.e. - viewing every pretty girl that passes your way as a girl you would like to have sex with and therefore being incapable of treating them as a human being). Fantasizing about a girl that other than physical beauty is probably really damaged emotionally means that you only regard physical beauty in relationships and therefore become calloused to mostly everything else. Building relationships with that mindset will eventually cheat you out of a great relationship with a girl that would make you a better person.

As for the learning aspect of porn, :roll:... there are plenty of books out there that talk about sex if you want to learn, but seriously, wouldn't you rather learn with someone that you can be vulnerable with and learn together through talking about it and experimenting, rather than a Cathode Ray Tube or LCD that puts up images that can't reciprocate those cheap thrills? (run-on, I know for you grammar nazis)

Most guys recognize that porn/masturbation is a normal outlet for a healthy sex drive. Most are well enough adjusted mentally to understand that watching porn is merely a way to enhance arousal and isn't some huge emotional bandaid for someone depressed and damaged and incapable of having a relationship with a real living breathing woman. It's really absurd to overanalyze something that's really quite a simple and basic function.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Cheating on who? Your left hand?

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: 49erinnc
I don't consider it to be cheating, by definition. However, I do know that a lot of women are offended and hurt if their SO is looking at porn. It affects their self-esteem because they feel as though they're not satisfying you on a sexual level when you have to get your kicks online. Women have a hard time understanding that men are very, very visual. So if you're looking at porn, while in a committed relationship, don't be surprised if your SO's self-esteem takes a hit. If you simply have to look at porn, I suggest trying to incorporate your SO into viewing it. If she has no interest than avoid porn all together or just be a lot more careful with your viewing habits as to not offend her or make her feel as though she's inadequate.

Um, just reword what he said and make it my post.

 

[thoro86]

nope.... That's actually an instruction manual for later...

 

[AbAbber2k]

While I don't consider pornography cheating (unless you're having some kind of wierd internet side relationship + pics)...
What if your SO likes to do it while watching porn? Even if my gf was just getting off to porn on her own, as long as she satisfied my own needs... fvck if I care what she watches.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Topic Title: Do you think Porn is cheating?

God mode is cheating.. porn is more along the lines of using a strategy guide.

That's sig material...until I get bored with it

You're the man NOW dog! :thumbsup:

 

[Eli]

Of course not.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: DaShen
I find that most guys look at porn/masturbation as an outlet for frustration or lack of self esteem in their own life. It is a cheap, quick thrill that satisfies them enough that they don't have to take a proactive step in finding a partner (SO) and moving on with a productive life.

Of course, that is all done subconsciously, most guys think of it as quick enjoyment, but I find that porn has negative aspects. I find that the only times that I have looked at porn were times where I was unsatisfied with my life, or frustrated with where I was in my life. And it is a losing battle, the more you feel despondent about your life, the more you turn to porn to give you that quick, cheap fix, and the more you don't deal with the real issues.

Yes, it is cheating. Cheating you out of cool relationships. Cheating you from viewing others in a manner that could build relationships (i.e. - viewing every pretty girl that passes your way as a girl you would like to have sex with and therefore being incapable of treating them as a human being). Fantasizing about a girl that other than physical beauty is probably really damaged emotionally means that you only regard physical beauty in relationships and therefore become calloused to mostly everything else. Building relationships with that mindset will eventually cheat you out of a great relationship with a girl that would make you a better person.

As for the learning aspect of porn, :roll:... there are plenty of books out there that talk about sex if you want to learn, but seriously, wouldn't you rather learn with someone that you can be vulnerable with and learn together through talking about it and experimenting, rather than a Cathode Ray Tube or LCD that puts up images that can't reciprocate those cheap thrills? (run-on, I know for you grammar nazis)

Most guys recognize that porn/masturbation is a normal outlet for a healthy sex drive. Most are well enough adjusted mentally to understand that watching porn is merely a way to enhance arousal and isn't some huge emotional bandaid for someone depressed and damaged and incapable of having a relationship with a real living breathing woman. It's really absurd to overanalyze something that's really quite a simple and basic function.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: DaShen
I find that most guys look at porn/masturbation as an outlet for frustration or lack of self esteem in their own life. It is a cheap, quick thrill that satisfies them enough that they don't have to take a proactive step in finding a partner (SO) and moving on with a productive life.

Of course, that is all done subconsciously, most guys think of it as quick enjoyment, but I find that porn has negative aspects. I find that the only times that I have looked at porn were times where I was unsatisfied with my life, or frustrated with where I was in my life. And it is a losing battle, the more you feel despondent about your life, the more you turn to porn to give you that quick, cheap fix, and the more you don't deal with the real issues.

Yes, it is cheating. Cheating you out of cool relationships. Cheating you from viewing others in a manner that could build relationships (i.e. - viewing every pretty girl that passes your way as a girl you would like to have sex with and therefore being incapable of treating them as a human being). Fantasizing about a girl that other than physical beauty is probably really damaged emotionally means that you only regard physical beauty in relationships and therefore become calloused to mostly everything else. Building relationships with that mindset will eventually cheat you out of a great relationship with a girl that would make you a better person.

As for the learning aspect of porn, :roll:... there are plenty of books out there that talk about sex if you want to learn, but seriously, wouldn't you rather learn with someone that you can be vulnerable with and learn together through talking about it and experimenting, rather than a Cathode Ray Tube or LCD that puts up images that can't reciprocate those cheap thrills? (run-on, I know for you grammar nazis)

Lot of judgements thrown around there.. where do you know about all of these guys that use porn as a reference to draw all of those conclusions?

 

[NaOH]

Originally posted by: trmiv

Originally posted by: DaShen
I find that most guys look at porn/masturbation as an outlet for frustration or lack of self esteem in their own life. It is a cheap, quick thrill that satisfies them enough that they don't have to take a proactive step in finding a partner (SO) and moving on with a productive life.

Of course, that is all done subconsciously, most guys think of it as quick enjoyment, but I find that porn has negative aspects. I find that the only times that I have looked at porn were times where I was unsatisfied with my life, or frustrated with where I was in my life. And it is a losing battle, the more you feel despondent about your life, the more you turn to porn to give you that quick, cheap fix, and the more you don't deal with the real issues.

Yes, it is cheating. Cheating you out of cool relationships. Cheating you from viewing others in a manner that could build relationships (i.e. - viewing every pretty girl that passes your way as a girl you would like to have sex with and therefore being incapable of treating them as a human being). Fantasizing about a girl that other than physical beauty is probably really damaged emotionally means that you only regard physical beauty in relationships and therefore become calloused to mostly everything else. Building relationships with that mindset will eventually cheat you out of a great relationship with a girl that would make you a better person.

As for the learning aspect of porn, :roll:... there are plenty of books out there that talk about sex if you want to learn, but seriously, wouldn't you rather learn with someone that you can be vulnerable with and learn together through talking about it and experimenting, rather than a Cathode Ray Tube or LCD that puts up images that can't reciprocate those cheap thrills? (run-on, I know for you grammar nazis)

ding ding ding we have a weiner

The title of this thread is "Do you think Porn is cheating?" not "Is porn morally right?" Asking if you think porn is cheating kind of implies this is about a person who is already in a relationship, doesn't it?

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: DaShen

It really depends on your definition of how you treat a person as a human being.

My criteria is a bit strict. But I have found that I have deeper, longer lasting friendships because of that. **There have been times in my life (times of doubt) where I chose not to do this (very regretable) **

Sure most people can treat each other with a certain level of civility. I have even seen people "mask" their true nature, just to attract a girl they want to have sex with.

But my definition of treating a person as a fellow human being is treating them as you would treat yourself. In other words, being genuine and honest with them (Meaning you can't be anybody other than who you genuinely are in front of someone just to impress them <most guys that just think about pretty girls they want to have sex with do this quite frequently> ). Treating them with respect, but with respect that is innate in every human, as well as respect that is earned. Mind you, I notice a pretty girl just like every other Joe Schmoe out there, but I find that if I do the above, I get to know the person on a more genuine level, and from there I can see if the person is a genuine human being or not. It works with same gender friends, too. If the person is at all fake while I am being genuine, you can spot it a mile away. But again, the issue is that porn somehow skews your view of women to only look for physical beauty.

You take half of the guys in ATOT and you show them a picture of a pretty girl, and the first thing they say or do, is "I'd do her." :roll:

If they see a girl that doesn't fit their view of beauty (which is totally physical to them), they shun her or make lewd remarks. (Example - the picture of the 23 year old that many joked as looking 43) From what I could deduce from the OP who posted it, she was a perfect match in personality and looks for him (and that is what made her beautiful).

You either:

(a) Have some serious psychological issues

or

(b) Have a really insecure g/f looking over your shoulder while you post crap like that.

 

[Tom]

Cheating at porn would be difficult.