Do you think part of maturity is seeing past your political bias?

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do you have friends that are on the opposite side of your political/ethical views?
 

Feldenak

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I've had friends on opposite side of the political spectrum for years. The trick is to not talk about politics when drunk. ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
I've had friends on opposite side of the political spectrum for years. The trick is to not talk about politics when drunk. ;)

Yes I have friends on the other side of the spectrum, heck, even my gf and I disagree on some issues, but usually we just agree to disagree, and then not bring it up again.
 

DaShen

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I would say that it shows maturity to be able to treat someone that thinks different from you with respect, regardless if it is politics or not.

Now the side question of whether they are friends depends on if they are jack@$$es or not. If their beliefs make them act like jerks, then I would say the opposite.
 

cKGunslinger

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My own wife has very different views than I on many issues, including politics and religion. Maturity involves seeing how a reasonable person can legitimately view something a certain way, even if that's not how you yourself view it.
 

SMOGZINN

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Yes, I live with two artists, a sculptor and a painter, one of them is even Catholic. I don't think I could have friends that had more of an opposite view then me.
The key is respecting the person, and therefore respecting their views.
As long as their views are well thought out, I can respect them, even if I disagree with the premises their views come from. Most differences in political views come from a basic difference in opinion on the nature of man and purpose of government. If you accept their premise then you will accept their opinion. That I can respect.
 

whistleclient

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i don't think i could respect a friend who actually likes Bush as a President.
i certainly couldn't date someone who thought so.

 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: tangent1138
i don't think i could respect a friend who actually likes Bush as a President.
i certainly couldn't date someone who thought so.

So, you don't like having your beliefs challenged?
 

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Yes, but even when I know I'm right, I tend not to continue the argument.

Like today, someone brought up genetics and I said we should put more resources into genetics because certain genes help reduce the rate of aging, and we could develop life extension. Somone else (religious) said we shouldn't play God and it could create problems later. I could have said that there are ways to genetically engineer people without altering their offspring, I could have attacked the begging the question "playing God" card, and I could have noted that even if stuff didn't work for the person completely, the alternative is old age and I'm pretty sure that has it's own problems.

But I just let the topic go.
 

Ornery

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Hell, my parents are Democrats, WTF am I supposed to do? I live in a bastion for Democrats, and many co-workers are Democrats. They're also churchgoers. What do I care what they waste their time, money and votes on?
 

Legend

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Originally posted by: tangent1138
i don't think i could respect a friend who actually likes Bush as a President.
i certainly couldn't date someone who thought so.

I've found that most Bush supporters are woefully ignorant of politics. Or they just don't care and they always support their party like it's a football game (Democrats do this too).

No I'm not attacking them because I'm a Democrat because I'm not a Democrat. I'm an independent--sort of a liberatarian, and I don't like the fiscal crazyness of this administration or the way it lies to the public like children in order to do whatever they hell it is that they do.

I don't like Democrats much either because they are way to socialist. Their solution to health care is to create a universal program so we can throw more money at the drug companies rather than address the real issue of health -- food.
 

whistleclient

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Originally posted by: tangent1138
i don't think i could respect a friend who actually likes Bush as a President.
i certainly couldn't date someone who thought so.

I don't mind my beliefs being challenged at all. But I think having a relationship with someone who liked Bush would be a completely incompatible relationship. Someone who's favorite movie is "Chairman of the Board" would fall into this category as well. Or a heroin user. There's having your beliefs challenged and there's "i have nothing in common with this person"...
 

SMOGZINN

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Originally posted by: tangent1138
Originally posted by: tangent1138
i don't think i could respect a friend who actually likes Bush as a President.
i certainly couldn't date someone who thought so.

I don't mind my beliefs being challenged at all. But I think having a relationship with someone who liked Bush would be a completely incompatible relationship. Someone who's favorite movie is "Chairman of the Board" would fall into this category as well. Or a heroin user. There's having your beliefs challenged and there's "i have nothing in common with this person"...

So you are saying that because someone likes Bush they could not possibly have anything in common with you?
 

datalink7

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I have a friend who is 100% supportive of Bush, goes to Church several times a week, and has a big picture of Reagen on his wall.

I have a friend who has rejected society, thinks money is evil, believes the government should be dissolved and we should all eat from food that we grow.