Do you think ogling is a form of sexual harassment?

[meltdown75]

Context:

A woman working in an office building goes for coffee and a breakfast sandwich every morning. As she walks through the lobby, one of the janitorial staff undresses her with his eyes. It happens on a fairly consistent basis. She has even overheard him commenting on her form and appearance when she is not *quite* out of earshot.

He has been in the elevator with her alone before, and stands facing her, eyeing her up and down, making her quite uncomfortable.

Do you think his behaviour constitutes sexual harassement, or is just a bit inappropriate?

Discuss.

edit: FYI I'm not going to rat on this guy, I just like to see what other people think of this.

 

[Alone]

Some form of harassment, especially if he commented on it.

 

[pontifex]

you might want to stop that if you want to keep your job

who the fvck standing in front of someone in an elevator eyeing them up and down?

 

[pennylane]

Does the way she dress ask for it?

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Harassment is a strong word....but it is definitely inappropriate.

 

[yllus]

He may need to get canned, but it's not sexual harassment. That's just way too subjective a call to make.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: pontifex
you might want to stop that if you want to keep your job

who the fvck standing in front of someone in an elevator eyeing them up and down?

lol... & for clarification, she is facing the door / buttons. he is facing her.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
Does the way she dress ask for it?

good point. sometimes, but apparently it doesn't matter what she is wearing as it happens consistently regardless of attire.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: pontifex
you might want to stop that if you want to keep your job

who the fvck standing in front of someone in an elevator eyeing them up and down?

lol... & for clarification, she is facing the door / buttons. he is facing her.

so he's either beside or behind her? or are they facing each other, face to face?

 

[engineereeyore]

Looking at her? No. Looking her up and down and making comments? Yes.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: pontifex
you might want to stop that if you want to keep your job

who the fvck standing in front of someone in an elevator eyeing them up and down?

lol... & for clarification, she is facing the door / buttons. he is facing her.

so he's either beside or behind her? or are they facing each other, face to face?

he is not behind her. lol... typically when there are two people in an elevator, they just stand facing the doors, waiting for their stop. he is facing her, which to me is weird. i ride that elevator every day and everyone faces the doors / button panel. that's just the way it is.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

A quick glance, no.

Eye-f*cking, yes.

- M4H

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Looking at her? No. Looking her up and down and making comments? Yes.

So is it ok to stare all you want, anywhere on the body, for as long as you want, as long as you don't say anything? (in your opinion, for discussion's sake of course)

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Looking at her? No. Looking her up and down and making comments? Yes.

So is it ok to stare all you want, anywhere on the body, for as long as you want, as long as you don't say anything? (in your opinion, for discussion's sake of course)

what if i've been paralyzed by a cockatrice and the position in which i was paralyzed makes it look like i am staring at you?

i'm still confused on the elevator situation though.
where is the guy standing in relation to the woman? beside her and looking at her or what?

 

[dfuze]

As far as I know, the broad definition of sexual harrassment is being made to feel uncomfortable in the workplace. I would say that by making the comments and the excessive staring he is making her uncomfortable and she would be within her rights to complain.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Looking at her? No. Looking her up and down and making comments? Yes.

So is it ok to stare all you want, anywhere on the body, for as long as you want, as long as you don't say anything? (in your opinion, for discussion's sake of course)

what if i've been paralyzed by a cockatrice and the position in which i was paralyzed makes it look like i am staring at you?

i'm still confused on the elevator situation though.
where is the guy standing in relation to the woman? beside her and looking at her or what?

cockatrice paralysis eh. ****** happens... you sir have a license to ogle.

If you can't figure this out, perhaps I can draw up a diagram in MS Paint for you. I'm going to hold off on that for now though.

 

[Canai]

mayhap not sexual harassment per se, but defiantly something that needs to be stopped.

It's kinda like that fat chick that's always staring at you while you're working........

/slouches below the table a little more

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Looking at her? No. Looking her up and down and making comments? Yes.

So is it ok to stare all you want, anywhere on the body, for as long as you want, as long as you don't say anything? (in your opinion, for discussion's sake of course)

what if i've been paralyzed by a cockatrice and the position in which i was paralyzed makes it look like i am staring at you?

i'm still confused on the elevator situation though.
where is the guy standing in relation to the woman? beside her and looking at her or what?

lol, i just got a funny visual
cockatrice paralysis eh. ****** happens... you sir have a license to ogle.

If you can't figure this out, perhaps I can draw up a diagram in MS Paint for you. I'm going to hold off on that for now though.

so he's not in front, behind, or beside her. is he above her on the ceiling? maybe looking down through the emergency hatch like ceiling cat?

 

[Alone]

Originally posted by: pontifex
i'm still confused on the elevator situation though.
where is the guy standing in relation to the woman? beside her and looking at her or hat?

Likely behind her.

 

[clamum]

Yes in that case.

 

[Lola]

I would consider what he is doing as sexual harassement for sure.
HOWEVER, what is she wearing? if it is typical work clothing, yes, that is harassement, but if she is wearing VERY short skirts and low cut blosues... then she is asking for it

 

[MisterJackson]

I bet the janitor is Mexican (yes I'm making a sweeping generalization, but I make it based on experience). I haven't met a Mexican guy that doesn't start giving that creepy, unblinking "I'm gonna rape you" stare any time they see a good looking girl. It's more than common around here.

 

[SuperNaruto]

Some dude in my office gave a thumbs up to a hot chic that came in, next day we all got pull into a meeting..

Sexual Harassment is wrong...

the guy throws the handbook on the desk and say look it up and walk out of the room

 

[UpgradeFailure]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Looking at her? No. Looking her up and down and making comments? Yes.

So is it ok to stare all you want, anywhere on the body, for as long as you want, as long as you don't say anything? (in your opinion, for discussion's sake of course)

what if i've been paralyzed by a cockatrice and the position in which i was paralyzed makes it look like i am staring at you?

i'm still confused on the elevator situation though.
where is the guy standing in relation to the woman? beside her and looking at her or what?

lol, i just got a funny visual
cockatrice paralysis eh. ****** happens... you sir have a license to ogle.

If you can't figure this out, perhaps I can draw up a diagram in MS Paint for you. I'm going to hold off on that for now though.

so he's not in front, behind, or beside her. is he above her on the ceiling? maybe looking down through the emergency hatch like ceiling cat?

Like this

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: pontifex
so he's not in front, behind, or beside her. is he above her on the ceiling? maybe looking down through the emergency hatch like ceiling cat?

he is beside her you pylon. now GTFO