Do you think its worth owning A/C in a home in Washington state?

Ricemarine

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Well do ya?...

Cause right now its 83 degrees INSIDE my home...
and its usually about that temperature or in the upper 70's during the summer.

So pretty much... Around May to September is when its all sunny...

And Washington is usually an overcast on all the other months...
 

jagec

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Well, as the years go by it will only get hotter...so at some point, AC makes sense. The question is how long you're willing to put it off by covering south-facing windows with aluminum foil, using fans, and taking cold showers.
 
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I live in Oregon, and I just purchased a single-room AC unit today. For the last few weeks, the temperature in my room has been 80+ until 10 at night, with yesterday being a high of 95 in my room. I can deal with anything <= 77 for sleeping temperatures, but 80 and above is just miserable.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: jagec
Well, as the years go by it will only get hotter...so at some point, AC makes sense. The question is how long you're willing to put it off by covering south-facing windows with aluminum foil, using fans, and taking cold showers.
:roll:

If you're referring to global warming, projections are an increase of 1C year-round average in the next 100 years. OMG he better get A/C!! And lots and lots of tinfoil!!!

The current warm weather is a non-typical short-term May heat wave caused by an unusual high pressure system. It will be gone by this weekend, with rain returning and high temps back down to the 60s. Seattle usually only has warm summery weather from early July to early September, with highs in the 70s with the occasional day in the 80s.
That's one reason I prefer Portland over Seattle. We actually get summers here.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Stewy
I live in Oregon, and I just purchased a single-room AC unit today. For the last few weeks, the temperature in my room has been 80+ until 10 at night, with yesterday being a high of 95 in my room. I can deal with anything <= 77 for sleeping temperatures, but 80 and above is just miserable.

Wow, Stewy, days must seem like weeks to you. A week ago it was raining and highs were in the 60s.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: Stewy
I live in Oregon, and I just purchased a single-room AC unit today. For the last few weeks, the temperature in my room has been 80+ until 10 at night, with yesterday being a high of 95 in my room. I can deal with anything <= 77 for sleeping temperatures, but 80 and above is just miserable.

do you have a regular monitor or a flat panel?
 

Zenmervolt

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Which part of WA?

East of the Cascades gets HOT. West of the Cascades stays fairly moderate.

ZV
 

Ricemarine

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Which part of WA?

East of the Cascades gets HOT. West of the Cascades stays fairly moderate.

ZV

west...
Moderate yet humid... lol.
 

HomeAppraiser

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We went from a low of 33F on Sunday night to a high of 93F today here in NorthEast Oregon! Suppost to be 100 on Wednesday. A/C is a hummin.
 
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Wrong. You don't need one.

I live in NorCal (Bay Area). It gets a LOT hotter here, and GUESS WHAT?

My apartment in Berkeley has NO AC. I live in a new building too. We face west, we're the top floor. The only reason it gets to 80s indoors is because my RETARDED roommates don't EVER open the window. I guess they enjoy being nerds and playing Warcraft 3 24/7 under 85 degree heat.

My home in San Jose? It faces North/South (pimp). Moreover, we have AC for upstairs only. If you know when to open your windows (open them at night, leave them open till you sleep, open them when you wake up, close them when you go to work), you will NEVER need AC. In our home, downstairs never exceeds 80, even in 100 degree heat. Its usually below 75 in the summer heat. Upstairs breaks 80 only in the afternoon, sometimes we're forced to turn on AC. But the downstairs areas of our house.. never needs AC =).

I go to everyone else's houses (friends) and its always hot as hell. I don't get it. Always 80s, upper 80s even. When people come into our home, the first thing they notice is that its so cool inside. How? You gotta be pro with window management =)
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Ricemarine
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Which part of WA?

East of the Cascades gets HOT. West of the Cascades stays fairly moderate.

ZV
west...
Moderate yet humid... lol.
Humid? You call this humid? Son, you don't know what humidity is if you think that west of the cascades is "humid". Try a summer in the south. 95 degrees and 95-100 per cent humidity.

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: DLeRium
If you know when to open your windows (open them at night, leave them open till you sleep, open them when you wake up, close them when you go to work), you will NEVER need AC. In our home, downstairs never exceeds 80, even in 100 degree heat. Its usually below 75 in the summer heat. Upstairs breaks 80 only in the afternoon, sometimes we're forced to turn on AC. But the downstairs areas of our house.. never needs AC =).

I go to everyone else's houses (friends) and its always hot as hell. I don't get it. Always 80s, upper 80s even. When people come into our home, the first thing they notice is that its so cool inside. How? You gotta be pro with window management =)
Window management isn't worth sh*t unless you live somewhere without humidity. It doesn't work in the Midwest, the South, or the East.

ZV
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Vic
If you're referring to global warming, projections are an increase of 1C year-round average in the next 100 years. OMG he better get A/C!! And lots and lots of tinfoil!!!

OK...point #1. Global average != local average. Considering them anywhere near the same is just stupid.
Point #2. Year-round != summer max. Once again...averaging an entire planet is a laughable way to do statistics.

What I'm referring to is the fact that, with an exception every 4 years or so, summers have been getting warmer in Washington since the early 90's. 2005 wasn't bad, 2001 wasn't bad, but the data doesn't lie.

Next time why don't you make you know what you're arguing about before you start throwing around the insults?
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Ricemarine
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Which part of WA?

East of the Cascades gets HOT. West of the Cascades stays fairly moderate.

ZV
west...
Moderate yet humid... lol.
Humid? You call this humid? Son, you don't know what humidity is if you think that west of the cascades is "humid". Try a summer in the south. 95 degrees and 95-100 per cent humidity.

ZV

LOL you sound like a bitter 59 yr old cranky ass :) but I totally agree.

After spending a few summers in Texas and Alabama, those were painful.
 

Mo0o

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I'm in bellevue right now. My parents have n AC in their room and it really helps in the afternoons but i think if you kind of tough it out once the sun sets its no problem. I have two fans in my room, one blowing air in from the window and another blow air out through my door. And i keep the room prett ycool.
 

GregGreen

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: DLeRium
If you know when to open your windows (open them at night, leave them open till you sleep, open them when you wake up, close them when you go to work), you will NEVER need AC. In our home, downstairs never exceeds 80, even in 100 degree heat. Its usually below 75 in the summer heat. Upstairs breaks 80 only in the afternoon, sometimes we're forced to turn on AC. But the downstairs areas of our house.. never needs AC =).

I go to everyone else's houses (friends) and its always hot as hell. I don't get it. Always 80s, upper 80s even. When people come into our home, the first thing they notice is that its so cool inside. How? You gotta be pro with window management =)
Window management isn't worth sh*t unless you live somewhere without humidity. It doesn't work in the Midwest, the South, or the East.

ZV

He is right about the windows -- it does work. Living in NY, you learn to do that sort of thing with your windows and it DEFINATLY works. We only get to about 90F max and 90% humidity but the window thing along with shorts and tee shirts makes it liveable.
 

nageov3t

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no one needs an AC... but they're so cheap it can't hurt.

NJ gets pretty hot and muggy every summer. I don't bother with an air conditioner in the apartment common rooms since I can just pop in 2 box fans and it keeps the rest of the apartment clean (my apartment is basically 1 large studio-type room and 2 separate bedrooms/bathrooms). I do have an AC in the bedroom, though. there's just no way I can sleep without it when we get a heat wave, since I can't open my bedroom windows (noises from the street will inevitably prevent me from sleeping)
 
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Originally posted by: GregGreen
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: DLeRium
If you know when to open your windows (open them at night, leave them open till you sleep, open them when you wake up, close them when you go to work), you will NEVER need AC. In our home, downstairs never exceeds 80, even in 100 degree heat. Its usually below 75 in the summer heat. Upstairs breaks 80 only in the afternoon, sometimes we're forced to turn on AC. But the downstairs areas of our house.. never needs AC =).

I go to everyone else's houses (friends) and its always hot as hell. I don't get it. Always 80s, upper 80s even. When people come into our home, the first thing they notice is that its so cool inside. How? You gotta be pro with window management =)
Window management isn't worth sh*t unless you live somewhere without humidity. It doesn't work in the Midwest, the South, or the East.

ZV

He is right about the windows -- it does work. Living in NY, you learn to do that sort of thing with your windows and it DEFINATLY works. We only get to about 90F max and 90% humidity but the window thing along with shorts and tee shirts makes it liveable.

It does work. It works for me in Asia too.

You open every damn window in the house for as long as possible, and even when the temperature inside = temperature outside, you open the window still.

Inside = more humid no matter what due to the fact we live indoors. So even if you live in dry@$$ world, it w ill be humid indoors regardless.

Window management is an art, there's intricacies to it that A/C dependent people will never know about
 

Ricemarine

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Ricemarine
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Which part of WA?

East of the Cascades gets HOT. West of the Cascades stays fairly moderate.

ZV
west...
Moderate yet humid... lol.
Humid? You call this humid? Son, you don't know what humidity is if you think that west of the cascades is "humid". Try a summer in the south. 95 degrees and 95-100 per cent humidity.

ZV

LOL you sound like a bitter 59 yr old cranky ass :) but I totally agree.

After spending a few summers in Texas and Alabama, those were painful.

lol :laugh:

Yeah... I've lived in Fort Worth, Texas and Santa Clarita, CA... Fort Worth was unbearable... When you step out the door.... you wanna walk back inside because its that hot during the summer...
 

fatpat268

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I can't imagine not having central air... I just can't.

But then again, I've lived in Texas for a majority of my life... and I can tell you, having the A/C broken on a 102F day is NOT fun.
 

BurnItDwn

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Any place south of the arctic circle and north of the antarctic circle it is worth it to have AC. If the extreme hot temperature happens on a regular basis (at least 30 or 40 days per year) then I'd say central air is a must, if the extreme heat is uncommon, then perhaps a window unit is best.

Note: I consider anything above 80 degrees F to be an extreme hot temperature.