Do you think it's ok for the state to name excessive users of water?

[brainhulk]

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-wet-prince-identity-20160920-snap-story.html

Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill this month requiring water districts to crack down on excessive water use during droughts. It would also make it easier to publicly name major offenders, so whoever the Wet Prince (or Princess) of Bel-Air is, his life’s about to get turned upside-down.

 

[cbrunny]

seems strange. but then again so is trying to grow grass in the desert so perhaps i'm not the best judge here.

 

[Exterous]

Technically speaking, the "Wet Prince" hasn't broken any laws: You're allowed to use as much water as you can pay for. In this case, the annual bill for that level of use comes out to roughly $90,000

If they haven't broken any laws and are paying the bills I don't think their names should be made public. If its an issue change the laws or charge "surge" pricing for the water.

 

[highland145]

I think they should name gun owners. That way thieves would know which houses not to rob.

 

[IronWing]

I think they should name drug dealers 'cause, hey, free advertising.

 

[IronWing]

If they haven't broken any laws and are paying the bills I don't think their names should be made public. If its an issue change the laws or charge "surge" pricing for the water.

This.

 

[tynopik]

the whole point of this is intentionally encouraging mob/vigilante justice

 

[edro]

Public shaming will not work against the super rich.
I vote for tiered pricing that severely impacts high users.

 

[Linux23]

If they haven't broken any laws and are paying the bills I don't think their names should be made public. If its an issue change the laws or charge "surge" pricing for the water.

agreed.

 

[KMFJD]

Public shaming will not work against the super rich.
I vote for tiered pricing that severely impacts high users.

Yeah but that's the problem though, you aren't going to severely impact those high volume users...

 

[TwiceOver]

Is it a fine ordered by court?

Our daily happenings are posted in the news paper's "Matter of Record" section. All DUI, Underage Consumption, Driving, bad checks, etc. But then again, small town, so it all fits in about 1/4 of a page.

 

[Chaotic42]

seems strange. but then again so is trying to grow grass in the desert so perhaps i'm not the best judge here.

Yep.

Just increase prices for heavy users.

 

[Ken g6]

Sounds like utilities now need privacy policies too. :ninja:

 

[Craig234]

I think they should name gun owners. That way thieves would know which houses not to rob.

That would tell thieves which houses TO rob. Thieves love stealing guns.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Just a way for the State to encourage mob rule, demonize individuals and then eliminate them.

 

[zinfamous]

When 80% of the water in CA goes to farmers drowning their fields in exceedingly wasteful and unnecessary ways, and Brown doesn't want to lift a fucking finger to ban this practice and restrict the use for farming--hell, the jerk actually wants to keep paying them to do this--then Brown can go fuck himself about trying to call out the 0.01%ers for individually using 0.004% of the water.

 

[vi edit]

I think they should name gun owners. That way thieves would know which houses not to rob.

I used to live outside Iowa City, IA. The local paper would annually publish concealed carry permit owners.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I don't care about that as long as they don't expand it to start naming excessive users of porn

 

[Chaotic42]

When 80% of the water in CA goes to farmers drowning their fields in exceedingly wasteful and unnecessary ways, and Brown doesn't want to lift a fucking finger to ban this practice and restrict the use for farming--hell, the jerk actually wants to keep paying them to do this--then Brown can go fuck himself about trying to call out the 0.01%ers for individually using 0.004% of the water.

I'm waiting for that whole bubble to pop. Desalinization would work in theory, but this lack of cheap, clean energy is going to be the death of us.

 

[BudAshes]

Here's what the city I'm from in CA did when people went over their allotted usage during the severe droughts the last few years: Turned their fucking water off.

 

[highland145]

That would tell thieves which houses TO rob. Thieves love stealing guns.

As if the NRA and Gadsden stickers on my Tacoma weren't enough of a give away. :smiley;

Just got off the phone with a friend of mine who lives in San Fran and we were talking guns. He says, "Out here, the locals would think you were a gun nutter prepper white supremacist type. In S.C., X number of firearms is normal for one guy." lol

 

[highland145]

I used to live outside Iowa City, IA. The local paper would annually publish concealed carry permit owners.

 

[NutBucket]

IIRC there's laws in CA that prevent excessive pricing of energy, water, etc. As I understand it true "surge" pricing is illegal. Yes, we have tiered consumption rates but obviously if you're truly affluent it's all lost in the noise.

 

[BurnItDwn]

It sounds like what they need is some large scale desalinization plants.

I understand that they might not be allowed to "overcharge" for water, but, they should be able to charge the actual cost related to obtaining the water.

If there isn't enough fresh water available, then mine the oceans for water, and charge higher prices to fund it. Seems the only logical option.

Relying on the good nature of wealthy people to reduce their water usage for the benefit of all is stupid and pointless.

 

[Imp]

I wanted to say that as long as you're paying your bills, whatever, but then I remembered there were rich people out there that can pour money down the drain and still be rich.

We need to invest in desalination tech... Solve that and we'll never have water problems again -- well, that or infinite energy since desalination is expensive, in part, due to the energy required.