Do you think ATI can outdo Nvidia's 6800U?
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No they'll probably be about the same ATI being faster in some games Nvidia in others. Won't be like 9700 vs 5800
anything is possible. we'll just have to wait and see... but regardless how the r420 performs, i think the 6800 got it right and successfully raised the bar - it will not be an easy act to follow. fortunately, it won't be a long wait for the r420. things sure are interesting 
If they are equal in performance then ATI still wins with better IQ, stability (MS crash info), and TVO. So, even though ATI has had the performance crown for almost two years, I think they were better before that anyway and will prolly continue to be.
IQ from the 6800 looks pretty good to me. Using same kind of AF as ATI so performance hit won't be as much like before.
Performance of 6800U is for me what I expected from R420's performance to be.
Nvidia healed her wounds(see ps2), and simulteanously, gave as she should for a new a next gen gpu,a very satisfying boost compared to 9800pro/xt (which was a healthy performance for a dx9 card).
I don't think high end R420 will be much different in terms of performance.
But once again these are PURE SPECULATIONS. Let's wait and see.
Nvidia healed her wounds(see ps2), and simulteanously, gave as she should for a new a next gen gpu,a very satisfying boost compared to 9800pro/xt (which was a healthy performance for a dx9 card).
I don't think high end R420 will be much different in terms of performance.
But once again these are PURE SPECULATIONS. Let's wait and see.
I, for one, can't wait to see 1. The performance comparison of the cards and (just as important) 2. An image quality comparison.
Nvidia has undoubtedly made a solid card here, and we'll see if ATI can follow suit (they have had 1 1/2 years since thier last real video card release). I would guess that they can.
As far as IQ, Nvidia seems to have learned from the mistakes of yesteryear and cleaned up their act. Once again, ATI has had 2 years to raise the bar. It will undoubtedly make for an interesting battle and I would bet a far closer one than was R3X0 vs NV3X
Nvidia has undoubtedly made a solid card here, and we'll see if ATI can follow suit (they have had 1 1/2 years since thier last real video card release). I would guess that they can.
As far as IQ, Nvidia seems to have learned from the mistakes of yesteryear and cleaned up their act. Once again, ATI has had 2 years to raise the bar. It will undoubtedly make for an interesting battle and I would bet a far closer one than was R3X0 vs NV3X
Well, I think it would be foolish to think that ATI has been sitting on their thumbs since their last real bit of hardware development (R9800).
The GF 6800 is about what I expected it to be and shows what nvidia can do - the fx 5xxx series were not inherently bad but I think nvidia got the principles behind that series wrong.
I expect ATI to be putting in similar performance, after all when the competition is this tight nobody ever really leaves the other behind significantly.
The GF 6800 is about what I expected it to be and shows what nvidia can do - the fx 5xxx series were not inherently bad but I think nvidia got the principles behind that series wrong.
I expect ATI to be putting in similar performance, after all when the competition is this tight nobody ever really leaves the other behind significantly.
Can they outdo Nvidia... Yes. Will they outdo Nvidia???? 11 more days and we should know
Or maybe a week after that (when the XT is unveiled).I hope ATI can at least match it!
I fear they are going to have a hard time, especially since I'm quite sure they won't be releasing anything that takes up a PCI's room.
I also fear that the XT will be a little late
Shooter.
I fear they are going to have a hard time, especially since I'm quite sure they won't be releasing anything that takes up a PCI's room.
I also fear that the XT will be a little late
Shooter.
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X800's 16 pipes @ 600 MHz (rumored) would probably beat 6800U in performance. Feature wise OTOH may be another story all together.
Better stability? Sure, whatever.
And as for the IQ, someone obviously hasn't seen the new screens taken from the 6800U.
As for the OP, anything is possible. Yes, I think the X800XT could outdo the 6800U. I also think the 6800U could outdo the X800XT. We'll have to wait and see.
ATI is by no means more stable then Nvidia, nv usually has better game compatability thanks to better drivers (historically). As to the quality, the screenies over at firingsquad have me convinced that nvidia has caught up in IQ.
For performance predictions, the X800 XT at 600 mhz, even if it's nothing more then a 9800 running at 600 mhz will be a solid performer. Then double the pipes over the current 9800 and were talking 6800 Ultra league. I think it'll be close, hopefully the midrange cards drop to the 200 - 250 range quickly, I've had this 9700 Pro in my main rig a long time and I'm itching for an upgrade. If the performance is close I'm goin nvidia, had some game issues with my 9700 Pro starting in the last few months.
For performance predictions, the X800 XT at 600 mhz, even if it's nothing more then a 9800 running at 600 mhz will be a solid performer. Then double the pipes over the current 9800 and were talking 6800 Ultra league. I think it'll be close, hopefully the midrange cards drop to the 200 - 250 range quickly, I've had this 9700 Pro in my main rig a long time and I'm itching for an upgrade. If the performance is close I'm goin nvidia, had some game issues with my 9700 Pro starting in the last few months.
Exactly my point - the IQ wars are dead even unless ATi pulls something out with their new core.
If ATI can match the 6800U with 1 molex connector, I will be VERY impressed. They just might do that with lower transistor count.
Did any of the reviews mention anything about maximum power draw on the 6800? I didn't see anything... just wondering cuz my TruePower 380 only has 18 amps on the 12v line. Hopefully nv is recommending 480 watts just to cover the noobs/oem's using generic psu's (500 WATTS FOR 15$!!!!!
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