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SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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This explains so much. More boasting and bloviating from a trumplestiltskin supporter. And more delusions about the dissolution of the ACA.
So what part of my explanation are you jealous of? That I make more than you because I work harder than you at my job? That I'm physically stronger because I work harder than you in the gym? That I have more balls and confidence than you because I will vote for whichever party will protect my hard earned wealth while you'll vote for whatever party fits who you "feel" should run the country? That you're an idealist (free shit for everyone!) because reality is just too much for you to bear and you think I should pay for your free shit?
 

SP33Demon

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What if he was British, and wanted to stop members of ${your_religion} from entering the country? Would you still support him then?
No they wouldn't support him, muslims already comprise 1 of every 10 people in the UK. By 2051 they are forecast to reach 1/3 of the population and non-muslim brits will be bred out of existence since they have a negative birthrate. Once again those with the lowest testosterone will lose their country and culture.
 

Crono

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Aug 8, 2001
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dank69

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2018 is the year that the "Send Grandma to the Meat Factory" policy kicks in, whereby all seniors 70 and above are immediately sent to the liquids and tissue harvesting facility in Chicago, Illinois.

The best part of this provision is that it also eases the burden on Social Security, extending solvency for the next 100, 150 years.
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Text for when this inevitably gets moved to P&N.
 

SP33Demon

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No way in hell a repub president gets rid of Obamacare. Their base would vote them out after the reality sets in that repub talking points about Obamacare were really just hot air.

People like health care
Do you live in a cave? Obama just had to veto the dissolution of obamacare 3 weeks ago. It's going to happen with a Repub president, believe it.
http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/p...nned-parenthood-going-on-the-offensive-212049

I like health care too, but not when my premium continues to rise at ridiculous rates and isn't properly funded.
 
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So what part of my explanation are you jealous of? That I make more than you because I work harder than you at my job? That I'm physically stronger because I work harder than you in the gym? That I have more balls and confidence than you because I will vote for whichever party will protect my hard earned wealth while you'll vote for whatever party fits who you "feel" should run the country? That you're an idealist (free shit for everyone!) because reality is just too much for you to bear and you think I should pay for your free shit?

you don't know me or my history, you just continue on with your bloviating. I try not to get into dick measuring contests with some random web persona.
I'm just so fucking happy I am not you or have any inclination to emulate your ideology in any way.
 

clamum

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Feb 13, 2003
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I kinda like that he's non-PC and says what's on his mind without so much political doublespeak bullshit, but I don't really care for him too much as a candidate for President. Still, I'd take him any day over fucking Sanders and probably Hillary.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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It's like watching a car wreck in slow motion. It's painful, disgusting, and really makes you question your humanity enjoying it. But you still watch anyway.

A tiny part of me hopes he gets elected just for the LOLs. If for nothing else it will add something interesting to headlines daily.

It really does say something about about our country when our candidates are a professional Troll, a frigid old tart, and some goofy looking dude that will be oldest president to ever take office if elected.

I kind of agree with Alec Baldwin on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjvSl7exTWg
 

zinfamous

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gururu2

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Yes but only because I have come to despise people like Boehner, Ryan, Cotton, Cantor, Cruz and McConnell who have run the GOP into the gutter. If Hillary doesn't beat Sanders, I would not be terribly upset if Trump beats Sanders.
 

SearchMaster

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Jun 6, 2002
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I kinda like that he's non-PC and says what's on his mind without so much political doublespeak bullshit, but I don't really care for him too much as a candidate for President. Still, I'd take him any day over fucking Sanders and probably Hillary.

Mostly this. And I am also in the "waiting for him to tell us he's been trolling" - I REALLY don't believe he wants to be president.
 

Homerboy

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Do you live in a cave? Obama just had to veto the dissolution of obamacare 3 weeks ago. It's going to happen with a Repub president, believe it.
http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/p...nned-parenthood-going-on-the-offensive-212049

I like health care too, but not when my premium continues to rise at ridiculous rates and isn't properly funded.

You mean like it did before, during and will after Obamacare?
If you think premiums are going to slow down anytime soon, then I must assume you are the one living in a cave.
 

Homerboy

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If Trump becomes President, we're completely fucked internationally. There's no way he could deal with other foreign leaders. WWIII would not be far around the corner.
 

gururu2

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You mean like it did before, during and will after Obamacare?
If you think premiums are going to slow down anytime soon, then I must assume you are the one living in a cave.

Agree 100% with this. As someone who has had no healthcare and needed to see a doctor, someone whos had amazing free healthcare (military) and someone who has had PPO, EPO, and HMO through various employers, I can say that Obamacare is the best medical solution EVER.
 

FrankRamiro

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Agree 100% with this. As someone who has had no healthcare and needed to see a doctor, someone whos had amazing free healthcare (military) and someone who has had PPO, EPO, and HMO through various employers, I can say that Obamacare is the best medical solution EVER.

Yes Obama care is great for losers that only live of government well-fare and don't want to work,and live of tax payers.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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You mean like it did before, during and will after Obamacare?
If you think premiums are going to slow down anytime soon, then I must assume you are the one living in a cave.
You are a fool if you think premiums would've risen at this rate even without obamacare. Read the bolded below:

When the Society of Actuaries estimated spring 2013 that the ACA would result in increasing claims costs by an average of 32 percent nationally by 2017, such estimates could be dismissed as “projections” since at the time of this study, actual premiums in the Exchanges had not yet been announced. A subsequent plethora of studies showed there had been double-digit increases in premiums (when comparing actual Exchange premiums to previously-prevailing premiums in the non-group market). However, virtually all of these studies focused only on Exchange premiums rather than premiums in the entire non-group market (only half of which consists of Exchange coverage). As a consequence, Obamacare proponents tended to dismiss these studies either as partisan attacks or methodologically limited, making what amounts to apples-to-oranges comparisons.

However, a new study from the well-respected and non-partisan National Bureau of Economic Research (and published by Brookings Institution), overcomes the limitations of these prior studies by examining what happened to premiums in the entire non-group market. The bottom line? In 2014, premiums in the non-group market grew by 24.4% compared to what they would have been without Obamacare.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...t-believe-whats-going-to-happen/#2b963a2e6c52

Seth Chandler, an expert in insurance law at the University of Houston and author of the “ACA Death Spiral” blog, sees another market force at play. “Insurers played this strategy of getting customers in the door by experimenting with lower premiums than really were appropriate, and then hoped that those customers would stick,” Chandler said. “If they did stick, they could raise the rates.” In the health insurance industry, customers do tend to “stick” to a health plan, rather than choosing a new plan, new network, and new doctors.
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“People are paying more as a result of the Democrats’ health care law, and they’re going to be paying even more next year, and the year after that, until we’re able to do something to stop it,” Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), chair of the Senate Republican Policy Committee, said in a floor speech before the Memorial Day recess.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/how-affordable-is-the-affordable-care-act-118428#ixzz3zJeTVzex

So they suck you in with unsustainably low prices and then jack them up if you're in a marketplace. In 2014 they went up 24% for non-market participants and every year it will continue to go up.

Face it, we've been duped by these companies and obama's stupid save-the-world bleeding heart ideology.
 

futurefields

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I kinda like that he's non-PC and says what's on his mind without so much political doublespeak bullshit, but I don't really care for him too much as a candidate for President. Still, I'd take him any day over fucking Sanders and probably Hillary.

This.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Agree 100% with this. As someone who has had no healthcare and needed to see a doctor, someone whos had amazing free healthcare (military) and someone who has had PPO, EPO, and HMO through various employers, I can say that Obamacare is the best medical solution EVER.
Keep in mind that you need to near the poverty level to qualify which only decreases competition. I have a friend who doesn't qualify for obamacare because she got out of poverty with a better paying job but now can't get covered in the marketplace and will get absolutely raped by premiums in non-market. Which begs the question: Why would someone have incentive to get a job if they are getting everything for virtually free? A welfare state is a complacent, non-competitive, mediocre and lethargic state that will not foster economic growth.

Look at Europe if you want to see what our future would be like with free handouts:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2015/09/economic-growth-europe
Even before the recent panic in financial markets about the Chinese economic slowdown, the euro-zone recovery was losing momentum. After growing by 0.4% in both late 2014 and early 2015, GDP increased in the second quarter by 0.3%. Annualised, that was a pace of 1.3%, barely a trot compared with America’s 3.7% gallop in the same period.

So the U.S. is almost triple the EU's GDP. Let's look at more figures.

Better news came in the form of unemployment falling from 11.1% in June to 10.9% in July, some way off its high of 12.1% in early 2013.
So 11% unemployment is what we can expect. Great (not).

Not to mention the triple stimulus the EU (lower oil prices, quantitative easing/buyback of bonds program, + low interest rates) benefits from as the article explains. This is what happens in a welfare state. Countries simply lose any incentive to compete (or even work) let alone innovate because they are given everything for free while paying an absurd 40%+ income tax rate and an absurd 20%+ sales tax rate so the populace is kept poor.
 
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