Do you support recent armed conflicts?

[bctbct]

Please short synopsis of your opinion on each

Iraq

Against- I was for the war until no waepons were found

Israel

For- I think they are being targeted for religious reasons and that if they do not respond it will lead to more attacks in the future.

 

[straightalker]

AGAINST ZIONIST AGGRESSION

The people of Isreal are headed for disaster. No question about it. I believe the Jews have an infinitely legitimate claim to being there on land given to their forefathers by no less than YHWH Himself.

What the Isreali people need is a defense capability and doctrine that won't propell them towards Armmeggedon. Recent armed conflicts are based on years of corrpted leadership.

The Isreali people should retake control of their Government, boot out the Mossad and choose diplomacy backed by a military capability second to none in the region and greater than all their neighbors combined.

Peace through strength and rational diplomacy. The hatreds are going to have to be let go.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: straightalker
AGAINST ZIONIST AGGRESSION

The people of Isreal are headed for disaster. No question about it. I believe the Jews have an infinitely legitimate claim to being there on land given to their forefathers by no less than YHWH Himself.

What the Isreali people need is a defense capability and doctrine that won't propell them towards Armmeggedon. Recent armed conflicts are based on years of corrpted leadership.

The Isreali people should retake control of their Government, boot out the Mossad and choose diplomacy backed by a military capability second to none in the region and greater than all their neighbors combined.

Peace through strength and rational diplomacy. The hatreds are going to have to be let go.

As much as I agree with the latter part of your sentiment, unfortunately there IS NO DIPLOMACY with a group that has outright said that their goal is the complete destruction of Israel and the Jews.

 

[schneiderguy]

israel: let them blow the sh!t out of each other, it'll just make the world better

 

[shurato]

Iraq is a scam! Bush will burn in hell but then again he and his cabal probably worships satan so they'll like it there. Israel on the otherhand...I say let them kick some ass.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: shurato
Iraq is a scam! Bush will burn in hell but then again he and his cabal probably worships satan so they'll like it there. Israel on the otherhand...I say let them kick some ass.

What insight........

 

[shurato]

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: shurato
Iraq is a scam! Bush will burn in hell but then again he and his cabal probably worships satan so they'll like it there. Israel on the otherhand...I say let them kick some ass.

What insight........

Should I write a novel explaining my beliefs? I make it short and to the point. And here's another one... go away, it's my opinion.

 

[tommywishbone]

Afghanistan- Absurd. OBL & his thugs were a hyperviolent street gang, nothing more. They were willing to do what had never been done before. Attack & occupy the entire country? Absurd.

Iraq- You have got to be kidding. 100x more absurd than Afghanistan. Absolute madness.

Israel v. Lebanon- It seems like a case of the 9th grade school yard bully, kicking the crap out of the smartazz sheet starting 4th grader... but I'm not sure. And I'll tell you the truth; just because bush backs Israel, I think they may be wrong. bush is always wrong.

 

[mackle]

Iraq: The situation only changed after there was no (bad) weapons to be found. However, the Iraq's government (Sadam) gave the US and its Allies (IAEA) a good reason to invade the country by kicked all the IAEA inspectors out. Seriously if you have don't have anything bad to hide from people then don't. LET THEM SEARCH. IF THEY COULDN'T FIND ANDYTHING, THEN TAKE THAT AND SHOVE IT TO THEIR FACES instead of made them more suspicious. I'm totally all out for war in the first place, then during the war I reconsiderd my option because too many fked up thing happended and now I think we should stay there. We don't want another Vietnam do we??

Israel: Self-defense is a good reason to bomb the sand out of Lebanon. Since 2001, Israel withdrew it forces out of Lebanon so what the hell do these people want?? Reoccupation? I rather nuke that place and put myself on the war crime list than see my people threaten everydays.

 

[Kadarin]

Israel: I would like to see Hamas and Hezbollah exterminated, like any infestation should be.
Iraq: I am against this war, given that our government lied about the reasons to invade Iraq.
Afghanistan: The Taliban deserves extermination also.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Israel: I would like to see Hamas and Hezbollah exterminated, like any infestation should be.
Iraq: I am against this war, given that our government lied about the reasons to invade Iraq.
Afghanistan: The Taliban deserves extermination also.

Another supporter of Genocide?

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: mackle
Iraq: The situation only changed after there was no (bad) weapons to be found. However, the Iraq's government (Sadam) gave the US and its Allies (IAEA) a good reason to invade the country by kicked all the IAEA inspectors out. Seriously if you have don't have anything bad to hide from people then don't. LET THEM SEARCH. IF THEY COULDN'T FIND ANDYTHING, THEN TAKE THAT AND SHOVE IT TO THEIR FACES instead of made them more suspicious. I'm totally all out for war in the first place, then during the war I reconsiderd my option because too many fked up thing happended and now I think we should stay there. We don't want another Vietnam do we??

Israel: Self-defense is a good reason to bomb the sand out of Lebanon. Since 2001, Israel withdrew it forces out of Lebanon so what the hell do these people want?? Reoccupation? I rather nuke that place and put myself on the war crime list than see my people threaten everydays.

You mean this time Israel should try and wipe out an entire nation? That is genocide.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: straightalker
AGAINST ZIONIST AGGRESSION

The people of Isreal are headed for disaster. No question about it. I believe the Jews have an infinitely legitimate claim to being there on land given to their forefathers by no less than YHWH Himself.

What the Isreali people need is a defense capability and doctrine that won't propell them towards Armmeggedon. Recent armed conflicts are based on years of corrpted leadership.

The Isreali people should retake control of their Government, boot out the Mossad and choose diplomacy backed by a military capability second to none in the region and greater than all their neighbors combined.

Peace through strength and rational diplomacy. The hatreds are going to have to be let go.

As much as I agree with the latter part of your sentiment, unfortunately there IS NO DIPLOMACY with a group that has outright said that their goal is the complete destruction of Israel and the Jews.

Any links? I might change my mind.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: straightalker
AGAINST ZIONIST AGGRESSION

The people of Isreal are headed for disaster. No question about it. I believe the Jews have an infinitely legitimate claim to being there on land given to their forefathers by no less than YHWH Himself.

What the Isreali people need is a defense capability and doctrine that won't propell them towards Armmeggedon. Recent armed conflicts are based on years of corrpted leadership.

The Isreali people should retake control of their Government, boot out the Mossad and choose diplomacy backed by a military capability second to none in the region and greater than all their neighbors combined.

Peace through strength and rational diplomacy. The hatreds are going to have to be let go.

As much as I agree with the latter part of your sentiment, unfortunately there IS NO DIPLOMACY with a group that has outright said that their goal is the complete destruction of Israel and the Jews.

Any links? I might change my mind.

Look at the PLA and Hamas charter/statements.
Hizbollah is backed by Syria/Iran. Look at the statements from those countries. Look at the statements from the leaders of Hizbollah.

the problem is not the Muslim/Islam religion. It is the extermists that are able to twist and brainwash the followers of the religion into thinking that their religion allows a blank check against others that are not of that religion. Also, the extremists/leaders will not go out on the front lines, but find proxies to perform their fantasies.

 

[Todd33]

Iraq: Was never for it, I never bought the hype. All lies for PNAC principles of naivety.

Lebanon/Israel: Bad place to put a Jewish nation (I don't care about "holy" lands). Now they are there, they have the right to defend themselves, but do we have to fund it? The only resolution is an all out war, but no one on the Arab side is that dumb.

 

[mackle]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: mackle
Iraq: The situation only changed after there was no (bad) weapons to be found. However, the Iraq's government (Sadam) gave the US and its Allies (IAEA) a good reason to invade the country by kicked all the IAEA inspectors out. Seriously if you have don't have anything bad to hide from people then don't. LET THEM SEARCH. IF THEY COULDN'T FIND ANDYTHING, THEN TAKE THAT AND SHOVE IT TO THEIR FACES instead of made them more suspicious. I'm totally all out for war in the first place, then during the war I reconsiderd my option because too many fked up thing happended and now I think we should stay there. We don't want another Vietnam do we??

Israel: Self-defense is a good reason to bomb the sand out of Lebanon. Since 2001, Israel withdrew it forces out of Lebanon so what the hell do these people want?? Reoccupation? I rather nuke that place and put myself on the war crime list than see my people threaten everydays.

You mean this time Israel should try and wipe out an entire nation? That is genocide.

Just find a place somewhere in moutain and drop it there as the a warning for these b!tches to becareful with who are they messing with also to minimum collateral damage because it 's in the moutain.

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
And I'll tell you the truth; just because bush backs Israel, I think they may be wrong. bush is always wrong.

:laugh:

 

[nageov3t]

Iraq -- I supported the war in principle but not execution. I think the Bush administration sabotoged their own war by refusing to comitt the resources needed to it and by the total lack of planning for what to do *after* Baghdad fell and Saddam Hussein was in custody. starting a second war before the first one was finished was a huge mistake.

Isreal -- I think they're stuck between a rock and a hard place and there's no easy answers or good solutions.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Israel: I would like to see Hamas and Hezbollah exterminated, like any infestation should be.
Iraq: I am against this war, given that our government lied about the reasons to invade Iraq.
Afghanistan: The Taliban deserves extermination also.

Another supporter of Genocide?

I would love to see the very ideas of extremist Islam and Islamic terrorism removed from the planet. I believe that this form of Islam is pure evil and contributes nothing positive to humanity.

 

[firewall]

A poll would have been more helpful.

 

[fallensight]

I disagree with Iraq, While Saddam was a evil man, he didnt do anything to us.

I agree with Isreal and attacking hezballah and lebanon. What was done there was an open act of war. See what would happen if one of China's or Russia's neibors crosed thier borders, abducted thier citizens, then made demands. I would guess that it would make what Isreal is doing look like a childs game.


And for the record, there are big differences between destroying a country, religious group, or militant faction and killing off a race. The muslims seem totally incapable of policing thier own societies of radical militant factions, and if they cant/wont do it, then it is up to someone else to do it.

 

[kylebisme]

Iraq:

Against - I could smell the BS on the WMDs claims and the 'in the streets with flowers' from a mile away. I knew it was going to be a mess and didn't want any part of it, but now that we are part of it, we get the job done right.

Lebanon:

Against - Israel has the responsibly to defend itself, but effectively ignored that responsibly until they were compelled to lash out in this war. Instead they should have been pursuing less destructive means to resolve the problem of Hezbollah on their boarder as they could have done much earlier, but at this point it would be best for them to pull out and let international forces take over from here.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Iraq:

Against - I could smell the BS on the WMDs claims and the 'in the streets with flowers' from a mile away. I knew it was going to be a mess and didn't want any part of it, but now that we are part of it, we get the job done right.

Lebanon:

Against - Israel has the responsibly to defend itself, but effectively ignored that responsibly until they were compelled to lash out in this war. Instead they should have been pursuing less destructive means to resolve the problem of Hezbollah on their boarder as they could have done much earlier, but at this point it would be best for them to pull out and let international forces take over from here.

No internatial force is going to want to go into lebonon and if they do will pull out once attacked.

 

[kylebisme]

The EU offered to go in and deal with it, and I'm sure they made that offer knowing they would be doing so under attack.

 

[bctbct]

I also would like to see the destruction of terrorism. I just dont think that we have enough support or assets to do this.

Maybe this is the wrong attitude but I feel these things are going to always exist in the world, we would have been better off addressing the threat (Afgan) and stay out of Iraq. It was poor judgement to move into Iraq, we lost a lot of the Iraqi citizens support when we flew missions ( approx 91-93) and watched the innocents being slaughtered by Saddam and did nothing.

Israel had no choice IMO, attacked at home over and over. Something needs to change in that region, but we need to stay out of it.