Do you sleep regularly every day?

yhelothar

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My sleeping patterns could be hardly considered periodic and shifts by a few hours each day. From what I understand, our exposure to light, especially one that's near the color temperature of the sun, like our monitors, would greatly affect our internal clocks. It'd be my guess that this is the main reason I don't get periodic sleep.

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How do you guys deal with this?
 
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l0cke

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yhelothar

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hmm so if I miss my bedtime at night, I should just caffeine it up till tomorrow night?
 

FelixDeCat

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Your internal body clock needs to be reset. If Im tired, I sleep regardless of how much sunlight enters a room. If it bothers you that much, buy black out window shades.
 

SlitheryDee

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melatonin. Your body produces it in response to low light levels to encourage you to sleep. If you're not getting the low light levels you can supplement your melatonin for the same effect.
 

yhelothar

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melatonin. Your body produces it in response to low light levels to encourage you to sleep. If you're not getting the low light levels you can supplement your melatonin for the same effect.
Good point. I have some that I had for a while but never really took as it didn't seem to do anything as a sleeping pill, but using it to help train my bio clock sounds like a pretty interesting idea. Getting lots of Tryptophan, precursor to melatonin, from a good protein meal works great to help me sleep though. But I can't imagine that being too healthy of a habit.
 

seemingly random

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Regularly irregular. It's a pita, sometimes.

Supposedly, there have been studies revealing that the 'natural' human day is ~25 hours.
 

Mrvile

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Sleep onset insomnia fucks everything up. My meal times and light exposure isn't even a concern at this point.
 

ZzZGuy

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Force myself to wake up at XX:XX and keep doing that for a week, likely aided by coffee and/or energy drinks. After 3 days I will feel tired at the correct hour and all is well until I play a addictive game into the weee hours a few nights in a row or start reading a book series.
 

shortylickens

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When I had that 12 hours night shift at the microchip factory my body got all messed up. Several doctors told me I needed to get out of that job, it was actually ruining my health.

One gave me some melatonin, but it wasnt enough. Eventually I got fired for fucking up on the job. My brain couldnt focus. I have never been so happy in my life. Being free of sleep deprivation was wonderful.
 

OverVolt

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When I had that 12 hours night shift at the microchip factory my body got all messed up. Several doctors told me I needed to get out of that job, it was actually ruining my health.

One gave me some melatonin, but it wasnt enough. Eventually I got fired for fucking up on the job. My brain couldnt focus. I have never been so happy in my life. Being free of sleep deprivation was wonderful.

I am the opposite. I'm most awake from 12noon to 4-6am I can stay awake to 9am pretty easy for a night shift. I've been like this for 5 years. In highschool it started junior year, I would go to bed at 4am, wake up at 730am, go to school, get out of school, do whatever, then sleep for 4 hours usually like 8pm to 12midnight. Then repeat.

It was great getting out of highschool and making my own college schedule. Everyone just assumes I'm lazy and I don't really know what to make of it. Working day shift does to me what sleeping night shift does to you. I can keep it up a few weeks but I eventually crack/crash.

The worst is family holidays because I miss out on sleep to do family stuff but thats okay. I wish I could wake up earlier just to be on NPT(normal people time :D) but at the same time my schedule is great because It's so much more productive to be on the opposite side of rush hour and get my stuff done late when I don't have to wait in lines.
 

DVad3r

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During my work week I sleep 6-8 hours, which is not enough most of the time, if I reach 8 it's good. Right now that I am off for 2 weeks I'm sleeping 10-12 hours a day and it's awesome. I wake up every day at noon and my eyes are all white, not one red line of tiredness detected :)
 

Colt45

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I seem to want to sleep later every day, but having a job screws that up.

I think, if I had no scheduled stuff, I'd probably be up ~20h and down ~10h, a sort of rolling, longer than a day, day.
 

Mrvile

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I think, if I had no scheduled stuff, I'd probably be up ~20h and down ~10h, a sort of rolling, longer than a day, day.

I've been wondering if we can actually train our bodies to get used to that. It seems like my body wants to be both awake and asleep longer than average, so I think something like 20/10 would work, but I'm not sure.
 

ShawnD1

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Night time is when I'm most awake. I get up at 6:30am to get to classes, I'll be tired all damn day until about 7pm. After that I become more alert and have a hard time sleeping. The most productive job I've ever had was when I worked from 4pm to midnight.
 

Colt45

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I've been wondering if we can actually train our bodies to get used to that. It seems like my body wants to be both awake and asleep longer than average, so I think something like 20/10 would work, but I'm not sure.

I think that's what my body wants, and having to fight it is a hellride... I can never fall asleep "on time", and can barely drag my ass to work in the morning, and I'm a zombie the first few hours of the day.

Whenever I get a few days vacation I start to slip into the rolling cycle; then I've gotta stay up way too long or take a sleeping pill to correct it, to go back to work... sucks :\
 

Mrvile

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I think that's what my body wants, and having to fight it is a hellride... I can never fall asleep "on time", and can barely drag my ass to work in the morning, and I'm a zombie the first few hours of the day.

Whenever I get a few days vacation I start to slip into the rolling cycle; then I've gotta stay up way too long or take a sleeping pill to correct it, to go back to work... sucks :\

I've been wondering if my onset insomnia has something to do with that too...doc tells me that I need to get myself into a "regular" sleep schedule, which is either 1) impossible at the current point in my life, or 2) doesn't fit within a 24-hour day (like you, whenever I have obligation-less breaks, I automatically start going to bed and waking up later and later). Either way, I can't really do anything about it which is why there's pot and ambien.
 

Colt45

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Does ambien work pretty well?

I usually switch between doxylamine and benadryl; They work ok if I take them every second or third day, but don't work repeatedly. So I usually end up with every second night being a 3 hour of sleep fail night. :'(
 

yhelothar

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Does ambien work pretty well?

I usually switch between doxylamine and benadryl; They work ok if I take them every second or third day, but don't work repeatedly. So I usually end up with every second night being a 3 hour of sleep fail night. :'(

Doxylamine is waay stronger than ambien for me.
It varies on people though. But doxylamine is known to be stronger than many prescription sleep aids.