Do you respect your ISP's TOS ?

polm

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I have been running different servers, including SMTP, SSH, HTTPS, and others for some time now via my ISP.

The TOS clearly do not allow for this, yet I continue unabated.

How about you ?
 

polm

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Originally posted by: Paladin
An honorable man will do right even when no one is watching. I do not run servers in violation of the ToS or AUP. Remind me to never trust you.

uh ok, never trust me :confused: I was just trying to be honest, I guess. It just seems to me that ISP's lay out these rediculous rules and, of course, are unable to enforce them at all.

Considering any service attached to a port allowing inbound communication could be called a "server".

Maybe the bigger question is: Do you have ALL inbound services either blocked or disabled on your ISP connection ?
 

JackMDS

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LOL.

I guess you can divide it into three Groups.

1. Never ever accelerate and maintain Driving Speed above 55mph (or what ever is the limit on the road).:eek:

2. Drive within the common law, but goes with the flow. :clock::thumbsup::thumbsdown:

3. Over speeder reckless Driver. :shocked: :thumbsdown:

:sun:

:thumbsdown:
 

n0cmonkey

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Unless there are truly ridiculous terms in my TOS, I obey them.

I think Jack's #2 is pretty accurate and reasonable over all. Atleast for me. :cool:
 

WobbleWobble

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A major ISP in my area blocks ports like 21 and 80 and such to prevent home servers. You can easily run it through a different port though. The other major ISP in my area is rumoured to now have traffic shaping software to slow down P2P traffic down to a crawl (usually less than 1KB/s up OR down).

There goes the honour system :(
 

Nothinman

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It just seems to me that ISP's lay out these rediculous rules and, of course, are unable to enforce them at all.

It's not that they're unable, just that they currently don't enforce them. They sure as hell can if they want to, do you think your SMTP, SSH, HTTPS servers would work if the ISP's border router dropped all incoming connections on those ports? Some ISPs already block 80, 21, 25 to enforce their TOS, be glad yours doesn't and be hopeful that noone using the same ISP becomes a spammer or something and causes your ISP to lock down their network.

And for the record, yes I am violating my TOS and running servers on my cable connection.
 

Sunner

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My ISP is nice enough not to restrict much of anything.
I'm allowed to run any servers I want so long as they're not commercial and are not violating the law.

So yes I follow the terms of my ISP :)
 

spidey07

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heh, I have no need to run servers. I'm just typical joe user on my broadband.

So I guess yes.
 

Sideswipe001

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If it's against my ToS to run a server, I don't know about it. So I do run them. Frankly, I never even thought about checking. They don't have FTP blocked so I assume that makes it okay. They do block PINGs though, which I found to be very annoying.
 

bleuless

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my isp (OOL) must be unique then.

they make me believe that they really know their stuff(which is a good thing). I feel they have some sort of traffic shaping/monitor going on. on ftp, i know they allow it to go for a short moment, then bam you are disconnected. but feel free to reconnect and re-ramp up as many time as you want. but it gets truely annoying when you are trying to xfer anything over 10 meg. their TOS states no internal file sharing, meaning when i want to xfer to my neighbor i have to use the above method to get it to work. but if you use like aim or yahoo it'll go through since it takes a outer hop.

p2p has numerous variables that can give u such low rate. i doubt that it's the isp limiting it (not my isp anyways)

but now we have bit torrent, you should try it to see if it still gives you problems.
 

MulLa

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My ISP is nice enough not to restrict much of anything.
I'm allowed to run any servers I want so long as they're not commercial and are not violating the law.

I rang and asked before I actually 'did it' :eek:
 

Rainsford

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My ISP doesn't care if you want to run servers, they are fine with it as long as you don't use unreasonable amounts of bandwidth.
 
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Originally posted by: polm
Originally posted by: Paladin
An honorable man will do right even when no one is watching. I do not run servers in violation of the ToS or AUP. Remind me to never trust you.

uh ok, never trust me :confused: I was just trying to be honest, I guess. It just seems to me that ISP's lay out these rediculous rules and, of course, are unable to enforce them at all.

Considering any service attached to a port allowing inbound communication could be called a "server".

Maybe the bigger question is: Do you have ALL inbound services either blocked or disabled on your ISP connection ?

My ISP does not disallow servers. I do not know of any DSL provider that disallows servers.