Do you mount your own tires? I'm CHEAP so I do!

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Gillbot

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First off, no pics. Sorry....

With that said, I was just sitting here being a bit bored, googling trying to find a tire shop open on Sunday to get my Jeep tires mounted and balanced. After reading this thread and letting my boredom get the best of me I thought, well I better at least go clean out my truck and get the tires and wheels loaded up for tomorrow and get them done. Now typically people around here want to charge between $40 and $100 for a simple mount and balance on four tires. They charge more if they have to remove them from the vehicle and even more if they have to remove a tire from the wheel and replace it with another. Lucky for me, my wheels are bare and the tires are fresh off a Jeep Rubicon with maybe 50 miles on it so all I need to do is combine the two!

I go out to the garage, grab a wheel and it hit me. I remember as a kid helping my friends dad "walk on" a HUGE tractor tire. This thing was like 6 foot in diameter so he had me stand in one spot while he walked his way around the tire until it popped on the wheel. With the wheel still in my hand I decided what the hell, I'll try and mount one just to see if I can. I set the wheel down face up on a old piece of plywood, put in a new valve stem and soaped up the bead area of the tire. Now, as long as you get the tire into the mounting grove as seen in the center of this wheel it should go right on.
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You typically don't need tools, well at least with decent sized tires that have enough sidewall. So sure enough, the bottom bead went on easy as pie and the top bead nearly as easy as long as you make sure you get the bead into that grove on the wheel. Just work the bead around the wheel pressing down till the tire pops on. Hit them with air until the bead pops, then fill to the proper pressure.

I went ahead and mounted all four, aired them up and tossed them into the back of the truck. Now I'm half tempted to buy the Harbor Freight bubble balancer just to try my luck there too! I've neveer had tires just balanced before so I'm hoping I can find a shop that will do that for like $10 or so since they won't have to do much of anything except put them on the machine and stick on a bit of weight. If it weren't for the cost of the balancer and weights, I'd probably just do that myself too. I just don't expect to get enough use out of the balancer and weights to justify the cost against the maybe $10-20 I hope to pay for a simple balance.
 

DominionSeraph

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Town Fair Tire matches Tire Rack's price and gives free lifetime road hazard, free snow tire changeover, and free rotation. $60 to mount and balance 4 and not having the hassle of getting rid of the old ones? I'll take it.
 

Fenixgoon

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even when i had a DIY auto center nearby, it was about the same cost as having someone do it for me.
 

boomerang

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Pretty easy to mount high sidewall tires yourself, but trying to mount low profile tires like are used on most cars these days will really try your patience. Getting one bead over the rim - no problem. Getting the second over - big problem.

I crewed on a car racing team for about a decade and we had a mechanical tire changer. But we balanced the tires on a bubble balancer identical to the one you linked to and never had an issue. A lot of modern vehicles use "rimless" wheels and stick on weights. We used stick on weights to lesson the chance of a weight coming off. The only thing you have to watch out for is clearance in the caliper area.
 

TridenT

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Nope. Walmart does it for like $5-10 a tire and balances them.

I was like, "Yeah, fuck that noise. I'll let them do it. And I don't have to dispose of the old tires? Win."

This next set I am going to get, I am going to let them do that again... but I'll pay extra this time and it'll cover tire rotations for life of the tire. I'd do the tire rotations myself, but I'll be on the road without a jack and jackstands for a few. (Not sure how I am going to do oil changes since I want to do it with my own stuff for cheap)
 

T2urtle

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Every time I see a used tire machine listing I'm tempted. $500-800 but I'll loose so much room in my garage and I'll never recover the money. So I just pay the $100 rip off price for 4 tires.
 

Jimzz

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Every time I see a used tire machine listing I'm tempted. $500-800 but I'll loose so much room in my garage and I'll never recover the money. So I just pay the $100 rip off price for 4 tires.


You need 2 tire machines. 1 removes and installs the tire the other balances it. Both need maintaince to work proper plus weights and other goods.

You need to sell a lot of tires to pay for the machines, let alone over head/employee salary/etc... Don't forget if a wheel or tire gets damaged on your equipment that just adds to it and it will happen if you do enough work.
 

Ferzerp

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You need 2 tire machines. 1 removes and installs the tire the other balances it. Both need maintaince to work proper plus weights and other goods.

You need to sell a lot of tires to pay for the machines, let alone over head/employee salary/etc... Don't forget if a wheel or tire gets damaged on your equipment that just adds to it and it will happen if you do enough work.

And depending upon the car, those OEM tires may run you $1,000-$2,000 or more apiece when you scratch them and the customer won't accept a repair.


Or, in the weird case like my last car. Some odd paint process exists and all wheels must be from the same batch because it never matches. What do you do then?
 

T2urtle

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You need 2 tire machines. 1 removes and installs the tire the other balances it. Both need maintaince to work proper plus weights and other goods.

You need to sell a lot of tires to pay for the machines, let alone over head/employee salary/etc... Don't forget if a wheel or tire gets damaged on your equipment that just adds to it and it will happen if you do enough work.

I wasn't planning on doing it as shop/business per say. More of less another DIY. I've done enough tires to be equal to average Joe at a tire shop. Ive mounted run flats and low profile 20s. yes damaged wheels and ripping old tires is always a concern of mines as well as any shop that u bring in tires too.

Like I said it would take me a lifetime to break even. $100 to mount 4 tires on my personal that last me 30-50k. I average 12k. So every 3-5 years.

My friend has a lower end machine in their garage but he races and needs tires flip and etc. Plus his machine can't really handle 18s very well without scuffing. He does 14/15s no problem.

I'll still end up going to the shop.
 

Gillbot

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I know the high sidewall tires are easier and mounting low profiles would be a pain. I even said so in the op.
You typically don't need tools, well at least with decent sized tires that have enough sidewall.

That's just for setting beads. Generally while in a pinch with an off-road truck...modern car tires generally don't need any extra effort beyond 'put air in it' to set the beads after mounting. And anyone that does that in an actual shop is a tool...jesus, just get a 'cheetah.'
Yeah, that's for just setting the bead and really isn't needed unless you are somewhere without a compressor. I've done it before out in the fields though.
You need 2 tire machines. 1 removes and installs the tire the other balances it. Both need maintaince to work proper plus weights and other goods.

You need to sell a lot of tires to pay for the machines, let alone over head/employee salary/etc... Don't forget if a wheel or tire gets damaged on your equipment that just adds to it and it will happen if you do enough work.

i'm still tempted to get both machines myself to be honest. Scouring craigslist yields all kinds of deals but I just don't go through tires like I used to so I can't justify the cost. When I had my camaro though, I bet I went through at least a dozen sets of tires and nearly as many styles of wheel on it. Most was poor right foot management though. ():):biggrin:
 
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Nope. Walmart does it for like $5-10 a tire and balances them.

I was like, "Yeah, fuck that noise. I'll let them do it. And I don't have to dispose of the old tires? Win."

This next set I am going to get, I am going to let them do that again... but I'll pay extra this time and it'll cover tire rotations for life of the tire. I'd do the tire rotations myself, but I'll be on the road without a jack and jackstands for a few. (Not sure how I am going to do oil changes since I want to do it with my own stuff for cheap)



Walmart?


Yeah..... No. They sell shit tires, do shit work, I wouldn't let them anywhere near my cars.
 

Jimzz

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Walmart?


Yeah..... No. They sell shit tires, do shit work, I wouldn't let them anywhere near my cars.


Depends, some are better than others. The one near me is ok and I watch them and if I see them do a no-no, like cross weights when balancing, I tell them how to fix it.
 

7window

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I would like to try this. I have a 15 in tire that i want to remove from rim, can you tell me the easiest way for me to remove the tire. I tried before and almost broke my arm. I even used a looonnnng breaker bar but almost hit me on the head.
 

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I would like to try this. I have a 15 in tire that i want to remove from rim, can you tell me the easiest way for me to remove the tire. I tried before and almost broke my arm. I even used a looonnnng breaker bar but almost hit me on the head.
Sawzall unless you want to keep the tire.
 

Gillbot

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Read the link in the op, google, watch youtube. it really can't be any easier than that. If you almost broke your arm, i'd suggest putting down the tools and letting someone with more knowledge handle the task.
 

exar333

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How often are you guys replacing tires? Get a few sets with cheap steelies if you need winters/etc. and just swap the whole tire/rim. Paying $50 every few years isn't too bad unless you are rocking a whole fleet of vehicles and put uber miles a year on them.
 

Gillbot

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It's not always about tires wearing out, I change them sometimes for a different look or if I get a deal on a new set of wheels.
 

Richard N

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Done the ether trick lots. The outrigger for my crane breaks a bead nicely. If you have a hard time setting a bead on a big one tighten a come along around the center, it'll bulge out the sides. Laundry/dish soap not recommended. It eats in to the rubber making it hard as hell to break the bead later.
 

A5

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I don't live in a snow tire climate, so the only time I'd ever mount tires is when buying new ones. Wouldn't save me any money to DIY.
 
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