Do you live a sustainable lifestyle?

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Vic

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: murban135
Humans have been living on earth for thousands of years with a vast variety of lifestyles. Not only is human life sustaining itself but it is flourishing. So my guess is that all of our lifestyles are sustainable.

The question is tricky because it assumes humans perpetually use the same resources. In truth, humans are pretty resourceful and will often resort to alternatives when their first choice is no longer an option (such as oil).

That's your opinion, just like your opinion that the earth is 6000 years old.


In any case, the human population has skyrocketed. For most of our existence on this planet, we consisted of small populations. Even then, we caused extinction of big game animals. Now, by destroying habitats, we are causing extinction of many many species. Destroying large amounts of biodiversity, that took 4.5 billion years of pure luck and evolution, on what could very well be the only life sustaining planet in the universe should be universally considered a SIN.

That pure luck has endowed the human species with a tremendous amount of adaptability, which is how we got to be so successful in the first place.

While you're attacking her over her religious beliefs while preaching about the impending apocalypse, I think you should ponder on the origin of that word.

Naturally, we should treat our home with respect, stewardship, and conservation. But OTOH we're in no really danger of destroying it either. At absolute worst, we'll just ruin it for ourselves, make like the dinosaurs, and evolution will start again with another species.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Rogodin2
"You own the planet? Not mine you don't.

PS I think the word you're looking for is "meta-fecal", Mr. Poop-cheese."

I own yours Booba. You'll get NONE of my spelt.

Rogo

Fortunately for both of us, I don't want your spelt, not after you've been sticking it in various farm animals for your pleasure.
 

Superrock

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Originally posted by: Tango
Nobody can answer yes to this. Most resources are finite.

I think Rogo is trying to tell us we're all screwing ourselves over because of the lifestyle this world has adopted for centuries past. The problem is I think he's preaching to the wrong people.
 

Rogodin2

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I think Rogo is trying to tell us we're all screwing ourselves over because of the lifestyle this world has adopted for centuries past. The problem is I think he's preaching to the wrong people.

Why are you the wrong people?

Rogo
 

K1052

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By the definition that has been sold to you, no.

The assumption that this is disastrous is predicated on the belief that we will cease to progress technologically and lose any and all of our inborn abilities to adapt. If you were to describe space travel and nuclear energy to a person from 100 years ago they'd look at you like a crazy person. I wonder what people 100 years from now would say about you.
 

Rogodin2

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If you can posit primary material for the viability for space exploration based on an energy source other than hydrocarbon please feel free to post the links.

As a species we've harnessed the greatest resouce on this planet. If we had been able to contain our population growth we might have had a chance to develop alternative energy sources that would support a decent poplulation base.

Most huggers think that we have to save the planet for our children. I believe that we've already passed the threshold. Conclusions?

Rogo

 

Rogodin2

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I wonder what people 100 years from now would say about you.

There won't be any people on this planet in 100 years. You've changed the planet in such a way that it won't be habitable lad.

Rogo
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Rogodin2
I wonder what people 100 years from now would say about you.

There won't be any people on this planet in 100 years. You've changed the planet in such a way that it won't be habitable lad.

Rogo

If I could make a bet on that and actually collect I'd put down my entire net worth against your volcanic berry farm.
 

Rogodin2

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You won't have 'net worth' in 2 years. I hope to god you own some arrable land without mortage.

Landed gentry were phantoms of their land-I'm changing that slowly.

Rogo
 

Rogodin2

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Every time you post you waste enough energy to light 100,000 houses.

That's a fallacious post-you're assuming I don't use renewable energy to power my home.

100% of my energy comes from wind/solar/hydro power.

You might like to try a different logical fallacy to refute my propositions lad.

Rogo

 

3NF

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Originally posted by: Superrock
<blockquote>quote:
Originally posted by: Tango
Nobody can answer yes to this. Most resources are finite.</blockquote>

I think Rogo is trying to tell us we're all screwing ourselves over because of the lifestyle this world has adopted for centuries past. The problem is I think he's preaching to the wrong people.

Why is this lifestyle screwing us over?
 

Ruptga

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Originally posted by: Rogodin2
<blockquote>quote:
Wow, why does this little kid always flame everyone in his threads? Cry much? </blockquote>

What's your problem fllemlamp? If you don't like the my posts don't FVVCKING POST in my threads.

Rogo

Why do you continually mutilate the names of the people you're trolling? I mean, that's something five year olds do. No, seriously, there's no way you're 30, not in the head anyway.
 

GoingUp

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yep. things might be a bit tighter than i'd like, but I've never paid interest on a credit card :)
 

Rogodin2

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Why do you continually mutilate the names of the people you're trolling? I mean, that's something five year olds do. No, seriously, there's no way you're 30, not in the head anyway.

The people I've no respect for don't use their real names, so changing their pseudo names doesn't matter to me. Five year olds don't understand pseuodnyms.

You're very strange yourself ADDPlavengor.

Please keep on topic.

Rogo
 

Rogodin2

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Gobadgers

yep. things might be a bit tighter than i'd like, but I've never paid interest on a credit card

That's not what I meant regarding the definition of 'sustainability'.

That's good that you're not in debt, but it doesn't mean that you're not releasing thousands of tons of carbon dioxide.

Rogo
 

Ruptga

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Originally posted by: Rogodin2
Why do you continually mutilate the names of the people you're trolling? I mean, that's something five year olds do. No, seriously, there's no way you're 30, not in the head anyway.

The people I've no respect for don't use their real names, so changing their pseudo names doesn't matter to me. Five year olds don't understand pseuodnyms.

You're very strange yourself ADDPlavengor.

Please keep on topic.

Rogo

Well the topic is dead, as others have said it's impossible to have a discussion in the way you've stacked it.

So, your reasoning doesn't make any sense; what does it matter if it's a real name or not, what reason do you have for making stupid child names up for us meanies, aside from inane immaturity.
 

Rogodin2

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I enjoy making up names for inane posters.

It's my thread, and you're a guest so you'll just have to live with that explanation lad.

Rogo
 

zerocool1

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define sustainable...i've heard very different definitions in the articles and conference that i attended.

for the most part i'd say so. i believe in recycling...and also community service.
 

Fritzo

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I just got to that point now. Had to stretch a bit over the last 1.5 years when I bought a new house. It was rough :)
 

Rogodin2

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zerocool1

"Sustainability is the ability to ensure that humanity meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs."

What I've posted above is a very simple defition.

Rogo
 

Ruptga

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Originally posted by: Rogodin2
I enjoy making up names for inane posters.

It's my thread, and you're a guest so you'll just have to live with that explanation lad.

Rogo

I like how you call all of us lad, like you're some wise grandfatherly figure or something.

Also, why do you cut out our names when you quote us, seems like a waste of time that can only fuel confusion.

And lastly, you think we're all going to die within a generation, so why are you even talking about this, why do you care if it's really unsalvagable by now? Assuming you believe what you say, you have no motive other than to get on your high horse and confer with fellow nutjobs about how your eight acres or whatever will keep on trucking while the rest of the world is burning in hell.
 

Hacp

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No, my life is not sustainable. If I keep eating cup noodles and rice every day, eventually, I'll die from the lack of protien.
 

Fritzo

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Oooohhhhh...I thought he meant sustainable financially. Not all the hippie "save the earth dude!" stuff.

I'm pretty sure the Earth is going to look like Coruscant from Star Wars in 200 years, but they seemed to like it.

We just have to remember to never leave one guy in charge of everything.