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Do You Know Who I REALLY Feel Sorry For In Iraq?

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Originally posted by: Jimbo
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: PCMarine
Originally posted by: jteef
I think a lot of them will surrender

Most of the regular Iraqi military will surrender on the outskirts, however the US WILL have to fight to reach Sadam in Baghdad

If most of the regular army surrenders, what is left to defend?

I'm thinking the hard core Republican Guard. I hope those animals die a horrible death.

In another week, I think there will be talk of the super special elite republican that will fight to death. The handwriting is on the walls and they all know it.

How would you like to be an iraqi general right now?
 
Originally posted by: Jimbo
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: PCMarine
Originally posted by: jteef
I think a lot of them will surrender

Most of the regular Iraqi military will surrender on the outskirts, however the US WILL have to fight to reach Sadam in Baghdad

If most of the regular army surrenders, what is left to defend?

I'm thinking the hard core Republican Guard. I hope those animals die a horrible death.

I have a feeling they will.
 
FWIW, just to add a bit of another viewpoint in here, I guess.... 🙂

It is seeming like, at this point, a fellow named Ahmed Chalabi is the one the US is going to try to put in. (Source: (He's a part of the INC - "Iraqi Nat'l Congress" - in London) He has, in the past, been pretty involved with the CIA. (Source: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/02/03/1044122320739.html - Sydney Morning Herald)http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/pt_cia_agent_020117.html) Way back in 1992, in Jordan, he was sentenced - in absentia - to 22 years of prison time with hard labor. He was convicted of bank fraud after his Petra bank collapsed. After the bank failed in 1989, he fled when warrants were out for his arrest. He also owes $230 million in civil fines. Some of his supporters say that the whole deal was politically motivated and a conspiracy of sorts. Please do peer about and read all that is available so that you can be fully informed - no matter which of the sides you decide to trust more in the end.

The question that remains is if Iraq, under a fellow such as Chalabi, would give its residents any more freedom or hope for a good future. I can only urge you to look at his past actions to decide what you think the outcome will be.

The regular conscripted Iraqi troops... I feel really bad for them, like you. 🙁 They are caught in this horrible situation...

I feel really bad for the civilians, as well. Millions of civilians in Iraq have died since the start of the first Gulf War... probably somewhere around 500,000 to 1.5 million children under the age of 5... Depleted uranium (any google search for that info should bring up some stuff) has brought a heck of a lot of suffering and / or death to many more, in Iraq, the US, and elsewhere. (Quite possibly one of the causes of, "Gulf War Syndrome"...) Also, right around the end continuing to days after the end of the Gulf War - that is, after a ceasefire had been declared - the US bombed a heck of a lot of retreating Iraqi soldiers... can find a bunch of sources for that, but might be easier to search for something along the lines of "Highway of Death" with Google.

Please, I just urge you to look at all sides of the story before making a decision as to what will really help the Iraqi people. Saddam is, in the kindest of words, a wretched person. However, I truly believe there is a chance that another installed 'leader' will only bring more sufferring to those who have suffered for so long...

With all of that said, after a long day, I have some nice Bowl Appetit waiting for me in a minute. 🙂

Have a good night, all! 🙂
 
We are going to hit them with 800 cruse missles in 2 days. Anybody still alive might surrender.

I just hope we don't pay with a nuclear blast in a major city here. It's always smart to leave people with no hope so they have nothing to loose.
 
Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: Jimbo
My source addresses and refutes yours.
There is absolutely nothing else close that substantiates a ridiculously low estimate of 1500. There are some other "bozo" low estimates, but nothing credible or even close. Nice try tho...ehh, not really.

if you think between 60,000 and 200,000 died in the Gulf War then you are truly a moron.
 
Also, right around the end continuing to days after the end of the Gulf War - that is, after a ceasefire had been declared - the US bombed a heck of a lot of retreating Iraqi soldiers... can find a bunch of sources for that, but might be easier to search for something along the lines of "Highway of Death" with Google.

The "Highway of Death" occured on the 3rd day of the ground war according to the History Channel specials on the war. Not after it was over.

from: here

Was it an overreaction? I think in retrospect it certainly was an overreaction. Most of what existed on the so-called highway of death were stolen goods and stolen vehicles from Kuwait city. There were very few Iraqi solders that were found amongst the wreckage. Most of them when the bombing started were smart enough to jump out of their stolen vehicles and run into the safety of the desert so the highway of death was the highway of death for vehicles, washing machines and stolen television sets, but it really wasn't the highway of death for Iraqi solders.


Most of the regular Iraqi military will surrender on the outskirts, however the US WILL have to fight to reach Sadam in Baghdad

I know that I do not have any sympathy for anyone who stays to fight.
 
I know that I do not have any sympathy for anyone who stays to fight.
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That's because you are emotionally stunted by the horror of the world.
 
Nobody should have to worry, all they need to do is get rid of one person, Saddam. Case closed.

Sure, there will be lots of work to be done afterwards, but that is better than a full out invasion.
 
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