Do you "have to" put high grade gas in this car?

MotionMan

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I'm talking about a 2003 Lexus LS 430.

Some people tell me you "have to" put in high grade, or it will wreck the engine. Others say you can use mid-grade. Most agree you cannot use low-grade, but am not sure why.

Please explain your response.

Thanks.

MotionMan


Edit:

OK, everyone calm down for a minute. Number One: I never said I bought anything. Number Two: I know enough about cars that I know to have them serviced, check the oil, keep the tires at the right pressure, etc. I just do not know anything about what the real difference is between the different types of gas - that is why I asked. I now get that, apparently, there IS a difference and, when it comes to the LS 430, high grade is the only way to go.

Thanks for the heads up.

MotionMan
 

waggy

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you buy a lexus and want to put cheap gas in it? sheesh.

but put whatever the manual says sheesh.
 

nsafreak

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Using anything less than premium gas in an 8 cylinder engine is typically not a good idea. You might get away with it but there's a chance you will see a decrease in performance and gas mileage as well.
 

KLin

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Do what the manufacturer says in the manual.


Explanation of my response: The manufacturer built the car, so obviously that should know what grade of fuel is best for the car.

 

Baked

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Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: Baked
Read the manual that came w/ your car.

Get out of here with your logic.

I failed at giving useless answers. I'm so ashamed of myself. /crawls out of thread
 

Sqube

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So you buy a Lexus and then you want to cheap out on the gas?

You should've just gotten a 95 Civic if you're too much of a tightwad to spring for the gas.
 

MotionMan

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I know what the manual says. I do not believe everything they say in the manual.

MotionMan
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
I know what the manual says. I do not believe everything they say in the manual.

MotionMan

You're probably the type who buys an expensive car then goes 50,000 miles without changing their oil too, eh?
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
I know what the manual says. I do not believe everything they say in the manual.

MotionMan

Then you should sell the car immediately. Take that Lexus you liars!!!!
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Geez. And you guys follow every direction in the manual, I suppose?

MotionMan

Just the ones that really matter in order to keep a car running in tip top shape. You know, the ones that talk about what grade of fuel to use, what kind of oil to use, etc. etc.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
I know what the manual says. I do not believe everything they say in the manual.

MotionMan

Yeah fvck the manual, who the hell do they think they are using millions of dollars developing a car and telling you to put the most appropriate gas in the tank. Stick it to the Japanese and buy the lowest octane gas you can find.
 

Kalvin00

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Geez. And you guys follow every direction in the manual, I suppose?

MotionMan

Ummm...they designed the car and know the profile of the pistons and compression ratios and such, I think their recommendation on what fuel to use works just fine..
 

MotionMan

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Originally posted by: waggy
you buy a lexus and want to put cheap gas in it? sheesh.

but put whatever the manual says sheesh.

I do not want to put cheap gas in it, but, at the same time, I do not want to pay for expensive gas if I do not have to.

Pardon me for trying to save a few bucks a week. ;)

MotionMan
 

Eli

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lol

You just spent tens of thousands of dollars on a brand new car, and are worried about 10-20 cents a gallon?

Just use premium if thats what it requires.
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Geez. And you guys follow every direction in the manual, I suppose?

MotionMan

High performance cars make more power by increasing the internal compression. Cheap low grade gas cannot withstand those increased pressures and it explodes. If you want gas exploding in your engine then keep putting low grade gas in your expensive lexus.

http://www.hastingsmfg.com/Service%20Tips/detonation_and_preignition.htm
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: waggy
you buy a lexus and want to put cheap gas in it? sheesh.

but put whatever the manual says sheesh.

I do not want to put cheap gas in it, but, at the same time, I do not want to pay for expensive gas if I do not have to.

Pardon me for trying to save a few bucks a week. ;)

MotionMan
if you wanted to save a few bucks a week you wouldn't be driving a lexus
 

waggy

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dont believe them! they are trying to get you to waste money. Put in the cheapest you can find. it won't hurt the car or gas mileage. Also don't worry about changing the oil every 3k miles. it should be fine every 10k (or 8 months) fricken oil company's trying to rip us off.

 

KLin

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Originally posted by: MotionMan
Originally posted by: waggy
you buy a lexus and want to put cheap gas in it? sheesh.

but put whatever the manual says sheesh.

I do not want to put cheap gas in it, but, at the same time, I do not want to pay for expensive gas if I do not have to.

Pardon me for trying to save a few bucks a week. ;)

MotionMan

If you want to save a few bucks a week, sell the lexus and go buy a camry. Then you can use 87 octane and not worry about compromised performance.