Do you have ADD? (ADHD?) Did medication help?

KingGheedora

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Would like to hear your experience with gettin treatment for ADD. Please only answer if you have been diagnosed ADD (or ADHD, still not sure what the difference is). Please answer the following questions:

Pretty much everyone I have ever known thinks they probably have ADD, but for those who were actually diagnosed, what were your symptoms?

How did the medication affect those symptoms?

Did getting treatment affect your life in any way that you did not foresee?

Still on medication now?

Any effect on your social life?
 

Born2bwire

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ADD/ADHD and the medication helped significantly in maintaining concentration and being able to work continuously. I no longer take medication, the main problem is that there really isn't anything that cures the symptoms, only treats. So the idea of taking amphetamines for 70 years isn't something I feel like doing. Without the medication, it's like constant TV surfing, my mind constantly thinking but changes topics about every 30 seconds. So it can be difficult to concentrate on a task.
 

Praetor

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I don't know if this helps, but my 7 year old has ADD. He's been on medication for ~9 months now. There's a night and day difference between on/off medication. On meds, he's focused and loves to read, play video games and talk. School was a noticeable difference. We didn't tell his teacher for about a month so we could get an unbiased opinion on his behaviour and it was noticed.

Off meds, he's running around, 20x more hyper than a normal child, constantly getting into trouble, grades in the toilet, etc.

We tried ritilin, but when it wore off, he had a complete rebound and was actually losing weight. He's a skinny kid to begin with, so we got him off of that.

His current script is fairly light, but he hasn't had any side effects with it as far as we can see.

My wife and I recommend anyone with questions to check out www.additudemag.com, it's been a great resource for us.
 

SLCentral

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I'm a college student, and this year I started taking 70mg of Vyvanse daily (well, M/W/F, usually), and 20mg of Adderall IR when I need it. The Vyvanse lasts 12 hours, so I take that early in the AM. I don't take it everyday because on Tuesdays and Thursdays I wake up at ~11-12, and by then, Vyvanse will make me stay up all night. The Adderall is used for when I need the benefits for only a short period of time, or on days that I take the Vyvanse and I feel it wearing off earlier in the day.

That said, yes, it has been a tremendous help. I've gone from struggling in reading even a paragraph at a time to being able to literally sit and study for 8 to 10 hours straight. I have a 3.9 GPA at a top-ten university, compared to 3.3 at a lesser-challenging school last year when I wasn't taking anything.

However, the Vyvanse and Adderall both make me have mood swings about 50% of the time I take it, causing me to get very easily aggrivated when the medicine starts to wear off. Generally, I know that at this point I have to be alone, and usually juts go in my room and do whatever. Not a big deal, but it sucks to literally not be able to control your emotions. My appetite gets suppressed too, and I sweat more, but those have both gotten better over the past few months.

All in all, I'm glad I take it, though I definitely do not want to be on it for the rest of my life, or even for more than a couple of years.
 

OverVolt

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My grades would improve if I took amphetamines as well. I'm not sure I buy into this ADD thing. Normal people can't study for 8-10 hours straight unless it's finals week or something and they are very stressed, but even then it's fairly non-productive.
 

SirStev0

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I knew/know a lot of people who abuse Adderall as a performance enhancer for studying/work. It can't be completely placebo.
 

OverVolt

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I'm not saying they aren't effective, I'm saying going from 3.3 GPA to a 3.9GPA because you have a script for amphetamines sound like a crock of shit as far as a disease goes.
 

narzy

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yes they do but the effect is not permanent and actually wears off pretty quickly. maybe 3 or 6 months before I need to taper off of them give it a rest for a few months and get back on. Pot works better and faster but is not legal in most states and certainly not to treat ADHD. There is a tolerance issue there as well.

It'd be interesting to see what would happen if for some months someone took the prescription medication for ADHD and when it started to wear off switch to pot and then quit pot and went back to the script when a tolerance was developed...Not gonna try it though.

And to the guy who has mood swings and is taking a cocktail of aderall and Vyvanse. You're taking too much I had the same problem when my dose was to high. No Doc in their right mind would script that...
 
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RoloMather

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You should go check it out.

People with ADD and ADHD are majorly undertreated. It's your health so you decide whether to listen to the doctors with degrees from ATOT school of medicine.
 

thescreensavers

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Meds help concentrate yes, but feel like shit on them, and very stressed out. I never take them. Maybe once in a while when I need to buck down and study.

But I am ok without them.
 

KingGheedora

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haha. For the guy who had ood swings, that sounds like a high dose, and that's not even considering the adderall.
 

Praetor

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My grades would improve if I took amphetamines as well. I'm not sure I buy into this ADD thing. Normal people can't study for 8-10 hours straight unless it's finals week or something and they are very stressed, but even then it's fairly non-productive.

I didn't buy into ADD either until my son was diagnosed and I could see the results for myself. Screw "study for 8-10 hours straight", he couldn't stay focused on a topic for 5 minutes.
 

nanette1985

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ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder) was first added to the DMS-IIIR diagnostic manual in 1968, described as "hyperkinetic reaction of childhood".

In 1980 they described 3 types of ADD - with hyperactivity, without hyperactivity and "residual type", whatever that means (DSM III)

In 1987 the name was changed into Attention-deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (DSM III-R)

In 1994 Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (DSM IV) the three types were updated into ADHD Combined Type, ADHD Predominantly Inattentive Type, and ADHD Predominantly Hyperactive-Impulsive Type

They're working on the new diagnostic manual DSM V. The latest work-group report is at http://www.psych.org/MainMenu/Resea...ive-Behavior-Disorders-Work-Group-Report.aspx

if anybody cares

Basically the clinical definition right now of ADHD is inability to control attention, either hyperactive or hyperfocus.

This should help answer the question of the difference between ADD and ADHD - when you were diagnosed, and if the diagnosing physician ever looked at the diagnostic manual.
 

Kaido

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Would like to hear your experience with gettin treatment for ADD. Please only answer if you have been diagnosed ADD (or ADHD, still not sure what the difference is). Please answer the following questions:

Pretty much everyone I have ever known thinks they probably have ADD, but for those who were actually diagnosed, what were your symptoms?

How did the medication affect those symptoms?

Did getting treatment affect your life in any way that you did not foresee?

Still on medication now?

Any effect on your social life?

Yup. Medication wears off quick, like within a couple weeks, so you keep having to up your dose. And there's no real long-term studies to show how taking them affects you later in life. I tried some meds, but I'm off them now. They have weird side effects too.

Basically the biggest thing that has helped me is going to bed early, as in like 9:00pm. Nothing helps de-scramble my brain like an early bedtime. You have to do it for at least 3 days in a row to start seeing any benefit, which is really hard if you truly have ADD because it's super difficult to go to bed. I just use an audiobook to help me fall asleep, since I get really bored in bed.

Also cleaning up my diet helped a ton. Sugar really amps up the ADD - soda, gatorade, candy, anything with like more than 10 grams of sugar in it. Also avoid preservatives & chemicals, anything processed - those are HUGE. Try making homemade food for a few days or a week (to get all the crap out of your system), along with going to bed early, and see how you feel. Exercising of course helps (especially for falling asleep), but I can really only do it in the morning when I have the energy to.

Another thing you really have to do is clearly define what you have to do in a day. Like, figure out the exact things that you want and make an action list for each thing, not just "I want to do homework", but "I need to do 10 problems in my math book on page 66".

Cliffs:
1. Go to bed early (9pm for at least 3 days to see some benefit) & use an audiobook to help you fall asleep (a TV is too distracting)
2. Get sugar/processed food out of your diet for a week
3. Exercise, even like 10 or 15 minutes is plenty
4. Clearly define your tasks for the day, and make they're doable (i.e. don't list 20 thing to do, list like 5 max)

That's pretty much what's worked for me. Getting to bed early is my hardest thing, but it makes me "normal" basically, so it's worth doing. It's really easy to think that taking better care of your body won't help your ADD, but I can tell you it does, a ton, especially the bedtime thing. Don't brush it off - just try for a week of early bedtime, 10 minutes of exercise (like biking or an elliptical or whatever), homemade food, and defining like 5 tasks to do before bed for the next day (and keep that list with you, on your desk). Give it a shot. HTH.
 
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Zargon

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How did the medication affect those symptoms?

Did getting treatment affect your life in any way that you did not foresee?

Still on medication now?

Any effect on your social life?

Diagnosed at age 10 or 11

was on Ritalin till about age 22-23, I never went up on dosage, 20mg SR's the whole time.

I could focus. On one thing, and get it done. I quit talking 24/7.

It made me sorta nauseated, so I had issues keeping on weight until I discovered copius amounts of beer.

I am 28 now, I learned to cope, the first year was rough in college when I quit. I still have my moments of course.

good affect on my social life since I was less of a hyper ass spazoid
 

SLCentral

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I'm not saying they aren't effective, I'm saying going from 3.3 GPA to a 3.9GPA because you have a script for amphetamines sound like a crock of shit as far as a disease goes.

What gives you the qualifications to make a statement like this?

For all of you saying that my dosage is too high, 70mg of Vyvanse is equivalent to about 30mg of Adderall XR, not a high dose at all. Not a low one, but there are plenty of people that are given much more.

I was first prescribed 18mg Concerta (minimum dose). Felt nothing, and eventually was up to 72mg with no benefits whatsoever. Then switched to Adderall XR at 10mg, then 20mg, 30mg, and finally 40mg. Didn't feel anything until 30mg, and was happy at 40mg, but had a lot of side effects. This led me to Vyvnase at 30mg, 60mg, and then 70mg. I was happy at 60mg, but it's easier (and cheaper) to take 1 70mg pill over two 30mg. I don't really notice a difference between 60/70 overall. So no, I wouldn't say my dose is too high. My doctor and nurse practitioner, both trained in ADD medication/treatment, agree with me.