Do you guys treat Jehova's Witnesses as bad as you treat Telemarketers??

[geno]

Out of curiosity - some of you guys have the guts to play with people over the phone - but how about face to face? (I'm hoping to hear some good stories )

 

[Isla]

OMG...

My MIL, who is THE holy roller, a born again charismatic Christian, invites them in to debate.

Serves 'em right, I think!

Me, I am polite, tell 'em God Bless, but I am very happy in my own church (which I haven't been to in a couple of years now, which is why I am probably still very happy with it!).

edit: My great uncle, who was a crazy, scary old man, told them that he worshipped Satan. That seemed to do the trick....

 

[Viper GTS]

Back when we lived in town & they came by occasionally, my dad used to have discussions with them. He'd spend a couple hours out on the front porch, them in suits, him in his pajamas.

Pretty funny if you ask me. Our street musta been hell for them, at one time there were three houses with people that would have done that.



Viper GTS

 

[Isla]

LOL, Viper, I can see that!

You know they must flinch a little when people bring out their Bibles and start pointing out different verses and stuff!

Me, I just hide in the kitchen and giggle.

 

[breakit23]

What do Jehova's Witnesses believe in?

 

[DJP]

I don't treat them poorly but when I was younger and in too many philosophy classes, would pose this set of questions for them.

Me: ok, so before anything existed, there was nothing but God who is pure good.
JW: yes
Me: Yet, evil now exists in the world
JW: yes
Me: So somewhere along the line, God created evil?
JW: Um... no Satan did that.
Me: But who created Satan? God?
JW: I guess so
Me: And God is omnicient so he knew that creating Satan would turn out bad in the end?
JW: hmmmm.....
Me: I need to go back inside now to take some cookies out of the oven.

These days I actually think it would be more interesting to have them help you do chores around the house or something.

JW: Can we talk to you about bla bla bla?
Me: Sure, come on in, I'm just washing some dishes right now, you guys can dry. The small plates go on the top shelf.

 

[CyberTiger]

JW believe that work will get you to heaven. they are required to go around and knock on people's doors so they can earn their place in heaven.
They different from Christian in that Christian believes that men's work don't earn salvation or a place in heaven. It's all by the grace of God.

 

[~zonker~]

"What do the Jehova Witness believe in?"

Good question.... here's a very non interested description of the organization here

 

[apoppin]

DJP, you must have had a new Jehovah's witness . . . .

Any Bible student will tell you that God created the Angel that choose to rebel (remember free will?) thus becoming Satan.

As to God's "all-knowing"; he allows for free will. We are not foreknown or foreordained to good or evil.

breakit23, PM ZomBie. He is a forum member that is one of Jehovah's witnesses. Evidently they ARE Christian Bible believers. Briefly, Jehovah is God's name and they are witnesses for his kingdom.

 

[unxpurg8d]

Very cute, DJP. Geeeeeez great, you give me a wonderful idea of how I'm finally gonna get my lawn raked........ and then I realized I haven't seen a Jehovah's Witness since I moved to the South. Darn Baptists don't go door-to-door - at least not in MY neighborhood.

 

[Viper GTS]

Blatantly ripped from zonker's link:

Although Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs come from the Protestant and Adventist tradition, they do hold many beliefs that set themselves apart. The following are some key beliefs that make them different:

(Beckford, p. 4-6, 113; Botting, p. 5-32, 187-194; Kephart and Zellner, p.291-98; Stark and Iannaccone, p.135-6; Watchtower: Official Web Site of Jehovah's Witnesses; Religious Tolerance Page)


Jehovah God: Their God is the God of the Old Testament - all-powerful, all-knowing, and everlasting. They refer to Him as Jehovah - a true, personal, and exclusive name that all should use.
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit: Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT believe in the Trinity. As mentioned above, God is the all-knowing, all-powerful Creator. The relationship between him and Jesus is like that of father and son: Jesus is the first creation of God. He is fully human. The Holy Spirit is an active force which intervenes for God on earth. All the above mentioned are separate entities.

Satan, the Devil: Satan is seen as an enemy of God. He is misleading and afflicts pain and sorrow. Through spiritism, nationalism, and temptation, Satan leads people astray. The way to resist the devil is by learning about Jehovah.

Man: Jehovah's Witnesses accept the Genesis account of the fall of man. Man is blemished with sin because of the disobedience Adam and Eve showed towards God. Every man is born with sin (save for Jesus, who was born to a virgin). They also believe that man's soul is mortal - i.e. that when a person dies, his spirit (or soul) dies as well. In addition, some will experience eternal life when they are resurrected, in the flesh and soul, simultaneously.

Salvation: In contrast to some Christian traditions that believe salvation is achieved by accepting Christ as Lord ("once saved, always saved&quot, Jehovah's Witnesses believe it is possible to fall from grace. "The Bible sets forth conditions that must be met if we are to be saved from the effects of inherited sin" (Watchtower, 09/15/89). Accepting Jesus as Lord is essential, but failure to exercise fidelity to God's requirements can result in the loss of the gift of salvation. "[Believers"...will be saved to eternal life only if they continue to adhere to all of God's requirements...Those losing faith in Jesus also lose everlasting life." (Watchtower, 09/15/89. Thanks to James Long, Webmaster of Jehovah's Witnesses United for assistance in correcting an earlier statement regarding salvation).

Heaven: Heaven is where Jesus Christ and the other "True Christians" will live. There they will rule over the kingdom which will be on earth. Seats are limited: only 144,000 will gain access to heaven.

Hell: Hell is non-existent for the Jehovah's Witnesses. There is not a fiery-torment, claims Russell, because it runs contradictory to God's loving nature. Those who don't qualify for heaven or the kingdom that will be established on earth will simply dissappear, as if they had never existed.

The Great Crowd: These are the subjects of the kingdom ruled by Jesus and the 144,000. They will live forever on the new earth if they had chosen to obey God.

Kingdom of God: This unique government rules over the earth from heaven. Jehovah fulfilled His promise to Jesus that he would rule in 1914. When Jesus became king, Satan and his evil angels were kicked out of heaven and sent to inhabit the earth. This is how the Jehovah's Witnesses explain the wars, crime increases, and other "bad" things which are happening in our world today. All these things indicate that Jesus has established his reign and that we are in the last days. Within a certain time frame, some faithful followers, 144,000 to be exact, will join Jesus and assist him in his reign. After Jesus judges his people (some receiving everlasting life others non-existence), Jehovah will rule again.

Holidays: Jehovah's Witnesses do not celebrate Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, birthdays, or any other holidays (save one). They believe these celebrations grew out of ancient false religions. Also, because early Christians did not celebrate these occasions, they believe they should not either. The one day they do celebrate, however, is the Memorial of Christ's Death during Passover.

Big differences between JW's & Christians can be found under the Salvation, & Jehovah God sections.

Viper GTS

 

[whateverdude]

I used to work at the zoo in stlouis and I got into more than a few verbal arguements with them because they would stand by the entrances and try to sell cookbooks to people coming in. they wouldnt just ask them, they would bug them and they were told many times to leave and kept coming back.

I wasnt afraid to say anything to their face. what were they gonna do? beat me up? LOL

 

[apoppin]

I missed your point, ViperGTS. Let me put it another way: Jehovah's witnesses claim to be be Christian as do many other faiths (Catholic, Protestant, Born-Again, Fundamentalist, etc.). And they use the Bible as their only authority.

EDIT: Cookbooks? What cookbooks?