do you guys actually program or have seen someone use Visual J++

[silhoutte]

wondering if people actually use visual j++ from microsoft. i'm behind the times and seems to me j++ is microsoft's excursion into java.

mostly curious cuz wondering if it's worth it to learn visual j++ since its integrated w/ microsoft's studio suite.

 

[joohang]

I wouldn't use J++. I'd recommend you to look into Visual Studio.NET and learn something like C#, but if you really want to learn Java, go with Sun's SDKs.

Last time I checked, J++ wasn't part of VS.NET. I guess it's because of Microsoft's recent loss in the lawsuit. There will be a Java (as in programming language) version of .NET development tool that runs on top of Common Language Runtime (CLR). You might want to look into that. Supposedly a UK company is developing it.

 

[silhoutte]

thx joohang, i've totally forgotten about c#. guess i'll stick w/ c++ for now and hit vb afterwards and then see how the language field plays itself out.

 

[joohang]

If you already know C++, just learn C#. There are already some good books out.

With .NET, programming becomes language-neutral. So stick with one language that you are most familiar with.

 

[Mday]

yeah, i have seen someone use j++...

that person hated it.

 

[joohang]

<< that person hated it. >>

Of course. He was programming Java.

According to one of the speakers in our local NT User Group: &quot;Java = Write Once, Debug Everywhere.&quot;

And no, he's not a harsh &quot;pro-MS&quot; person. He shared some very very good Microsoft jokes after that. Those were sure hilarious. hehe

 

[Mule]

Newsflash!!! (J++ != Java)

Java code will not compile in J++, it's just MS hacked version of Java, it doesn't even us JDK 1.xx

BTW I like to program in JAVA, especially GUI stuff. C++ was such a pain when it came to GUI programming, but it's still the most efficient.

 

[mundania]

yea.. J++ isnt' really java.. it's microsoft's version. if you want a java compiler use sun's. but word on the street is that microsoft's version is pretty darn speedy.

 

[joohang]

<< yea.. J++ isnt' really java.. it's microsoft's version. if you want a java compiler use sun's. but word on the street is that microsoft's version is pretty darn speedy. >>

Microsoft optimized Java (or &quot;hacked&quot; Java) to run efficiently under Windows and &quot;added&quot; some stuff to it. That was one of the biggest reasons for the lawsuit, I believe.