Do you do stuff for your S.O. because you have to?

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Lifer
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Let me elaborate. I expect mostly, no I do it because I want to answers, cause it's obviously the 'right' answer. But there are the occasional complaints about a girlfriend (you don't really hear the gals complaining about their boyfriends) who gets mad because you didn't remember your 3 and a half month anniversary or something. But on to the question...

Do you buy or make gifts or plan date times etc because you enjoy doing it, because it pleases your partner and you enjoy that, or because their a little upset or you're in the doghouse if you don't? Do you see these types of things as required/ preferred/ nonessential/ should not be done in a relationship? From the opposite point of view, do you like having such things done for you? Would you stay in a relationship where they aren't done?

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Come on, no answers? I really enjoy doing things/getting this for my bf. It's part of the fun for me, but I don't think it should really be necessary. It can help, obviously, keep everyone happy but it shouldn't the criteria for happiness. That's not what a relationship is about. However, I know that seeing the effort made, for me at least, is a big thing, even though the material stuff is unimportant.
 

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<< Come on, no answers? I really enjoy doing things/getting this for my bf. It's part of the fun for me, but I don't think it should really be necessary. It can help, obviously, keep everyone happy but it shouldn't the criteria for happiness. That's not what a relationship is about. However, I know that seeing the effort made, for me at least, is a big thing, even though the material stuff is unimportant. >>



Depends on the girl... I love doing stuff for the girl I'm dating, but the last girl I dated really.... really stretched me as far as that goes. It got to a point where she was expecting "surprises" and roses and all that... really got to me.

I loved doing it, though!
 
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I dont have a S.O. and if I did I would do what it takes to keep a happy relationship. Giving and receiving is part of the fun of a relatinoship, be it a inanimate object or just the thought.

since i dotn have a S.O. I use my skills elsewhere.. friends, acquaintances etc etc.
 
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<< LOL,Hotchic, I do nice things for people because it makes me feel good... there's very little I do in life because I "have to" >>



same here baffled....
 

StandardCell

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I don't believe one should expect any material things in a relationship or "forced activities", but I do believe that values should be expected and ironed out early in a relationship.
 

kranky

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My wife doesn't expect much. I don't expect her to do anything spectacular for me either. But we do things for each other precisely because we want to and it isn't expected - and that's what makes it satisfying. That's how you know it was done out of love and respect.

There's no thrill in someone doing something for you because you expected it and they knew it.

Of course, certain things must be done just to acknowledge you aren't taking your SO for granted - a birthday remembrance, Christmas, Valentine's Day. But when people have very high expectations about gifts, flowers, blah, blah, where is the opportunity to do something nice "just because"? It's a massive contradiction to give someone the impression that you want to be surprised often. No surprise in that, is there?
 

Anghang

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i'll do stuff cuz i feel like doing it...not cuz i feel obligated to...once i feel i'm doing stuff because i "have" to...then that's it...there are issues in the relationship that have to be ironed out...

and if she gets upset because i didn't do something, she better speak up...better lay those expectations out on the table..i can't read minds...out of all relationships i've had, the only time i've gotten upset or angry at her is when she gets upset or angry at me...and its always because she has expectations, as if i can read minds...*SHEESH*...hehe...
 

arigato

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Doing nice/unexpected things is great however if your s.o. rarely reciprocates nor seems appreciative it can be really quite frustrating.
 

Koing

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I do things as I want to and I enjoy it. When I don't want to I don't........
 

spp

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I do things as I want to and I enjoy it. When I don't want to I don't........

obviously you don't have a S.O. , and you live in CA, United kingdom??


see the thing is that..... girls always give guys clothes because they shop for clothes a lot themselves, and they can just pick up a few while they're at it..

it's hard for guys since we don't really "shop". we just go and buy stuff we want/need and get out.
so i don't enjoy buying stuff (because it's very time consuming), and i do it because i have to, but of course if my gf likes it i'll enjoy it too.
 

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Well your first mistake was assuming the majority of this crowd HAD a S.O.:Q

I do thing I don't enjoy because my wife wants me to but theese are chores and doing stuff around the house. I also watched the entire second season of SURVIVOR with her:Q the HORROR!

Mainly it's movies that I loathe we have seen some bad ones because of her.

BLACK DOG!(Patrick Swayze) Horrible Movie but she wanted to see it. Mainly it;s stuff for my son. Usually if it's with Her it's ENJOYIBLE!:D
 

spp

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I do those special things for my *ahem* reward. hehe

lucky bastards...... i don't get sh!t for doing special things...
 

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a lot of times i do stuff for my significant other even when she tells me not to. it's part of the fun i guess. i suppose i'm lucky, only thing my gf expects of me is to show up on time and not bug her during "that time of the month"
 

LordThing

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Of course I do alot of things to make her happy. Many times I compromise what I want so that we both get what we want out of it. What you run the risk of is getting taken advantage of. You rub her back before you go to sleep and she goes from making cute requests to virtually demanding it. You can really get taken advantage of very quickly when you are totally giving. I guess I have to learn to say no to things. Normally I figure its not worth it and just do it. But in the end, you do end up feeling empty if you really get used.
 

linuxboy

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Do you buy or make gifts or plan date times etc because you enjoy doing it, because it pleases your partner and you enjoy that, or because their a little upset or you're in the doghouse if you don't? Do you see these types of things as required/ preferred/ nonessential/ should not be done in a relationship? From the opposite point of view, do you like having such things done for you? Would you stay in a relationship where they aren't done?

More thoughts?


Eh... what the hey. It helps when I write since that's when I find out what my views are on a subject.

I buy gifts and plan dates because I know people are fragile and weak. Because I know that a hug or a thought or a random present that I conjure when I think about the gem that is a person I know is meaningless to me but in the world of the other person, it is that enabling factor that allows them to catch a glimpse of their own frailty and humanity. It is this that lets them open a door into their past and confront those haunting demons that lurk beneath.

I don't care much for anything. I think meaninglessness itself is meaningless. People try to get me stuff and do stuff for me and I smile and keep going along with it because I know that if I tell them that what they do is so pointless it's funny, they will not be able to handle the onslaught of emotion and fear. Plus, a sort of recognition that I should exert a modicum of effort to preserve myself compels me to accept a reduction of chaos and an accedence to norms and mores.

In a relationship, for most people, these things are required. I think this is because people are too afraid to discover what they are and have to hide it in material things and judge behavior to accept a secure notion of reality in order to cope. Since direct experience and brutal acceptance is so hard, doing things that temporarily point to transcendence of course is preferred.

Would I stay in a relationship where I didn't have to put up with all that nonsense? Yes, I like everything raw ;). Then again, I have incredible and unrealistic ideas about how things are and how they ought to be. If the other person is sincere and merely thinls this is proper, I recognize it as such, there's no reason I should not enjoy the sweet smell of a bouquet of flowers, some chocolate, a note, or a thought expressed as a result of reflection. It allows me to see the mind of another and that is vitally important to me. At the same time, I prefer more direct contact that is alot more meaningful. But on the other hand, there's a time for anything and when extremes are not experienced, something should serve to break the mundane since if nothing breaks it, a person thinks that this is ALL there is and that is simply not true, I think.

random and foolish enough for ya?

Cheers ! :)
 

kgraeme

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Do I stuff my S.O because I have to? Um....












Really though, I don't have to do a damn thing. Really. She expects nothing from me and I expect nothing from her. We just make each other happy.
 

Deeko

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Basically when my gf is happy, I'm happy....so if I can do something to brighten her day, essentially im brightening my own....so its a win-win situation eh?
 

AreaCode707

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<< Do you buy or make gifts or plan date times etc because you enjoy doing it, because it pleases your partner and you enjoy that, or because their a little upset or you're in the doghouse if you don't? Do you see these types of things as required/ preferred/ nonessential/ should not be done in a relationship? From the opposite point of view, do you like having such things done for you? Would you stay in a relationship where they aren't done?

More thoughts?


Eh... what the hey. It helps when I write since that's when I find out what my views are on a subject.

I buy gifts and plan dates because I know people are fragile and weak. Because I know that a hug or a thought or a random present that I conjure when I think about the gem that is a person I know is meaningless to me but in the world of the other person, it is that enabling factor that allows them to catch a glimpse of their own frailty and humanity. It is this that lets them open a door into their past and confront those haunting demons that lurk beneath.

I don't care much for anything. I think meaninglessness itself is meaningless. People try to get me stuff and do stuff for me and I smile and keep going along with it because I know that if I tell them that what they do is so pointless it's funny, they will not be able to handle the onslaught of emotion and fear. Plus, a sort of recognition that I should exert a modicum of effort to preserve myself compels me to accept a reduction of chaos and an accedence to norms and mores.

In a relationship, for most people, these things are required. I think this is because people are too afraid to discover what they are and have to hide it in material things and judge behavior to accept a secure notion of reality in order to cope. Since direct experience and brutal acceptance is so hard, doing things that temporarily point to transcendence of course is preferred.

Would I stay in a relationship where I didn't have to put up with all that nonsense? Yes, I like everything raw ;). Then again, I have incredible and unrealistic ideas about how things are and how they ought to be. If the other person is sincere and merely thinls this is proper, I recognize it as such, there's no reason I should not enjoy the sweet smell of a bouquet of flowers, some chocolate, a note, or a thought expressed as a result of reflection. It allows me to see the mind of another and that is vitally important to me. At the same time, I prefer more direct contact that is alot more meaningful. But on the other hand, there's a time for anything and when extremes are not experienced, something should serve to break the mundane since if nothing breaks it, a person thinks that this is ALL there is and that is simply not true, I think.

random and foolish enough for ya?

Cheers ! :)
>>



I said I "hated" you yesterday but today you get a rose as a thank you for your well thought out reply. @>--}----- ;)
 

Soccer55

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<< But we do things for each other precisely because we want to and it isn't expected - and that's what makes it satisfying. That's how you know it was done out of love and respect. >>



I couldn't have said it any better. IMO, that's what makes a relationship a good (or a great) one.....each person wants to do things for the other out of love and respect, not because it's expected or because "they have to". I enjoyed doing things for my girlfriend (while we were still together) because I knew that they would make her happy. Just seeing how happy she was whenever I did something for her reminded me why I did these things in the first place, and why it was worth doing those types of things again in the future.

-Tom
 

erikiksaz

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Bah, i hate it when i do things for a S.O., and i get hosed as being "whupped." :disgust: