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Do you consider this art? Ham and iceburgs inside...

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imported_Tomato

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Work of Art #1
NEW YORK -- Brooklyn-based artist Cosimo Cavallaro regards his finished work of art, a bed with more than 300 pounds of sliced ham, at a gallery in New York. Cavallaro, 41, the son of immigrants from southern Italy, said the ham is "a pure form of America: all kinds of parts, boiled and pressed together." Despite his Italian heritage and training in an Italian art school, Cavallaro said he had rejected Prosciutto because "It would have been pompous."

Work of Art #2
ILULLISSAT, Greenland -- The finished product of Chilean-born Danish artist Marco Evaristti's "Ice Cube Project" is seen in Ilullissat, Greenland. Evaristti used 3,000 liters (780 gallons) of dye used to highlight meat diluted with sea water, three fire hoses, two icebreakers and a 20-man crew to spray the chunk of ice for his artwork. (03/24/04 AP photo)

Hrm.

In other news... mmm, sandwich.
MEXICO CITY -- A man takes a piece of the world's biggest sandwich. The cheese, ham, mayonnaise and lettuce sandwich which measures 3.50 x 3.50 meters (11.5 x 11.5 feet) holds a Guinness Record. (04/24/04 AP photo)
 
That insults me... Personally. I think art should be limited to.. music, painting/drawing, photography, sculpting, writing (poetry, stories, etc.) And anything else I may have left out, not anyting. Oy I've confused myself. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

EDIT: Graphics, certain architecture, etc.
 
Of course it is "art", it's just more of a question of whether we like it or not. Just looking at the pictures I would have to say I don't like the bed of ham, the iceburg looks interesting, and the sandwhich looks big. I would be curious to hear why the artists decided to do this before I formed a real opinion, but yeah the art world does seem to be populated by a lot of crap these days. I blame MTV.
 
Originally posted by: cobalt
That insults me... Personally. I think art should be limited to.. music, painting/drawing, photography, sculpting, writing (poetry, stories, etc.) And anything else I may have left out, not anyting. Oy I've confused myself. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

EDIT: Graphics, certain architecture, etc.
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What is art? If you can tell me what it's limited to then you can surely tell me what it is.
 
Originally posted by: cobalt
That insults me... Personally. I think art should be limited to.. music, painting/drawing, photography, sculpting, writing (poetry, stories, etc.) And anything else I may have left out, not anyting. Oy I've confused myself. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

EDIT: Graphics, certain architecture, etc.
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I think the iceberg is a fine piece of sculpture....but to each his own.
 
Nope. i dont.

shrug i have always enjoyed the "classic" art. i could never get into the new stuff.
 
Who really cares? Some considers Rembrandt art while i say my kid made better patterns in her diaper. Some say that Bolero is art while i find it worthless compared to some modern music.

Some say this isn't art i say it is. You can pain, sketch, draw, sing, sculpture, do whatever you want, art is merely a way of expressing yourself, in any way you feel you can, what others have to say about your work shouldn't matter as much as what you get out of it.

Yes, this was a form of expression, this is art.
 
It sucks to know that taxpayers probably footed the bill for someone to paint an iceburg red and call it art.

Seriously... I can think of thousands of things to do (such as paint an iceburg) that would take a minimal amount of talent that any 5 year old possesses.
Calling it art doesn't make it art. Unfortunately, labelling it "art" brings a bunch of people out of the woodwork to defend it as being "art."

The ham thing? Art?? WTF are people thinking?

I think that once I have my barn and a few cows, I'm going to shovel the manure out of the barn, place it in a pile leaning just a little to the side, just so, and call it art. Then I'll apply for taxpayer supported funding to create more of the same art.
 
None of that crap is art. The giant sandwich is cool, but does not qualify as art (nor did the creators intend it to be). The ham thing is incredibly stupid and a waste of food. That guy needs a real job
 
I'd like to get a big banner that says "Calling it art doesn't make it art. Nor should it give people the right to defend it as being art."

Then when people start yelling at me, cursing me, and telling me I'm wrong, I'll just say:
"You don't get it, do you. What I'm doing right now is performance art."
 
Art lives, as they say. Both pics make me go WTF, but makes me think more than looking at a regular painting of a person. Though both are wasteful and questionable, they are a form of expression art. But face it, any monkey could have dumped 300 lbs of ham on a bed or spray painted some ice.
 
I feel that art requires some sort of creativity and talent. Dumping lots of ham onto a bed may be creative to some, but to me it seems more of a ploy to garner attention for someone who has no creativity or talent. Same with the iceberg.
 
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